38 Super bullet question

Joe Portale · August 25, 2001, 10:41 AM

Hello,

Here is my dilemna, I have 1911 in 38 Super that I like to shoot. The problem is that a standard 38 Super bullet is hard to russle up in these parts. At the suggestions of others, I have loaded 9mm bullets. AT best the accuracy with the 9mm bullet is irratic. Actually I can push a .355 bullet down the barrel with a piece of dowel with hardly any effort.

Has anyone done this or is this even feasible, to use a .357 bullet in this gun? I look at the diamteres, 9mm (.355), 38 Sup (.356) and 38/357 (.357) It seems that this could be done with reasonably safety. Or am I all wet on this?

Thanks.

C.R.Sam · August 25, 2001, 11:04 AM

I see no reason why you can't do it as long as you pay attention and start low and work up with the load. As one should always do with a new load.

A lot of .357/.38spec bores are smaller than the nominal for .38 super........and a lot of 9mm bores are larger than the nominal for .357. Always a good idea to slug YOUR barrel anyway.

Sam

Kenneth L. Walters · August 25, 2001, 11:44 AM

For what it is worth, I understand that Smith is going to make about 100 8-shot 38 Super revolvers. Suppose to use moon clips.

C.R.Sam · August 25, 2001, 12:10 PM

Gotta add..........since you may be workin with bullets of different shape from those specified in your loading books.......watch the case capacity below the bullet base and also the overall length. If you have to seat one too deep to get overall length right...DONT. Pressures can get out of control in a heartbeat.

Sam

C.R.Sam · August 25, 2001, 02:40 PM

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sricciardelli · August 25, 2001, 08:48 PM

If you go to http://stevespages.com/page8.htm and select Table #2 you will find a listing of currently available bullets for your Super 38. Slug your barrel and find out what the exact bore diameter is.

Then go to http://stevespages.com/page8c.htm and pick a load based on the bullet you have selected.

I have loaded .355, .357 and .358 lead bullets, and jacketed, in my Colts and had no problem.

Gunslinger45 · August 26, 2001, 07:17 AM

Good advise - can't add much.
Have a Combat Elite .38 Super, did OK with .355 bullets, I just wanted to see how close I could come to an "auto-loading .357" using the Rem 125 "tulip jacket" HP. Got up to 1215 fps without signs of excessive pressure - needed a real strong recoil spring to keep the brass in the same zip code !

August 25, 2001, 10:41 AM	#1
Joe Portale Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 1999 Location: Tucson, Arizona Territory Posts: 715	38 Super bullet question Hello, Here is my dilemna, I have 1911 in 38 Super that I like to shoot. The problem is that a standard 38 Super bullet is hard to russle up in these parts. At the suggestions of others, I have loaded 9mm bullets. AT best the accuracy with the 9mm bullet is irratic. Actually I can push a .355 bullet down the barrel with a piece of dowel with hardly any effort. Has anyone done this or is this even feasible, to use a .357 bullet in this gun? I look at the diamteres, 9mm (.355), 38 Sup (.356) and 38/357 (.357) It seems that this could be done with reasonably safety. Or am I all wet on this? Thanks. __________________ Joe Portale Tucson, Arizona Territory "Even now in heaven there are angles carrying savage weapons". - St Paul

August 25, 2001, 02:40 PM	#5
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	, Last edited by C.R.Sam; August 25, 2001 at 06:33 PM.

August 26, 2001, 07:17 AM	#7
Gunslinger45 Member Join Date: August 22, 2001 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 49	Good advise - can't add much. Have a Combat Elite .38 Super, did OK with .355 bullets, I just wanted to see how close I could come to an "auto-loading .357" using the Rem 125 "tulip jacket" HP. Got up to 1215 fps without signs of excessive pressure - needed a real strong recoil spring to keep the brass in the same zip code ! __________________ Gunslinger Cogno, ergo, boom

August 25, 2001, 11:04 AM	#2
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	I see no reason why you can't do it as long as you pay attention and start low and work up with the load. As one should always do with a new load. A lot of .357/.38spec bores are smaller than the nominal for .38 super........and a lot of 9mm bores are larger than the nominal for .357. Always a good idea to slug YOUR barrel anyway. Sam

August 25, 2001, 11:44 AM	#3
Kenneth L. Walters Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 1999 Location: flagstaff, arizona Posts: 477	For what it is worth, I understand that Smith is going to make about 100 8-shot 38 Super revolvers. Suppose to use moon clips.

August 25, 2001, 12:10 PM	#4
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Gotta add..........since you may be workin with bullets of different shape from those specified in your loading books.......watch the case capacity below the bullet base and also the overall length. If you have to seat one too deep to get overall length right...DONT. Pressures can get out of control in a heartbeat. Sam

August 25, 2001, 08:48 PM	#6
sricciardelli Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: Montana Posts: 489	If you go to http://stevespages.com/page8.htm and select Table #2 you will find a listing of currently available bullets for your Super 38. Slug your barrel and find out what the exact bore diameter is. Then go to http://stevespages.com/page8c.htm and pick a load based on the bullet you have selected. I have loaded .355, .357 and .358 lead bullets, and jacketed, in my Colts and had no problem.