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Old March 11, 2013, 10:23 PM   #1
Buckizbrutal
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1858 36/44 frame size diff

Hello, couldn't find the answer after searching for a bit so I figured I'd just flat out ask and possibly start discussion.
What is the main differences in size when comparing an 1858 36 cal to a 1858 44 cal.
I would image obviously the barrels diameter would be smaller unless it just has a smaller bore, and is the frame size different, or is it just the cylinder that is smaller??
The only real reason I would consider a 36 is if it is more concealable than the 44, and maybe easier for the ladies to shoot.
Most likely would do kirst 38 immediately. Any input on that would be great too.
I've already done a gated conversion to the 44 anything different?
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Old March 12, 2013, 10:15 AM   #2
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They are basically the same size gun as far as exterior dimensions are concerned, excepting barrel length.

Buying a .36 caliber '58 with the intentions of using a Kirst cylinder is a great way to sink ~ $500 into a gun that stinks in the accuracy dept. Of course you could always throw more $ at it to replace the barrel or have it relined to accommodate the .38s, but then you could no longer use the .36 c&b cylinder.

If you have the throats on the Kirst reamed you could use heeled ammo, but that's kind of a pain to reload.
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Old March 12, 2013, 01:18 PM   #3
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The Euroarms has a smaller frame.
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Old March 12, 2013, 10:24 PM   #4
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The revolver at the top is a Pietta Remington '58 .44 with a Kirst conversion cylinder. The one below is a Pietta Remington '58 .36 with an R&D (Howell) conversion cylinder with the barrel relined to .357 to shoot regular .38s.

Only difference besides caliber is that the .36 has a slightly shorter barrel.

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Old March 14, 2013, 12:11 PM   #5
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I have both, a .44 Pietta and .36 Euroarms with conversion cylinders for both. The Euroarms is smaller and much thinner in width in the frame. The Euroams has a different feel than the Pietta due to the grip profile. I paid $325.00 for both the Euroarms and the conversion cylinder used last fall. I couldn't resist it at that price. The mistake I made was not stocking up on HB bullets, got plenty of SWC but they don't shoot as well. Didn't expect the craziness to include caps or HB bullets but it did. Got cases, primers, and black powder. Anyone have a .38 HB mould of anykind they want to sell for less than my first born child? I have a bunch of plumbers lead around.
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