problems with my glock 22

1hogfan83 · December 6, 2011, 12:53 PM

A few months ago I started having problems with my glock, mainly with FTE. At first i thought i was bad ammo, i.e. cheap ammo. I bought some good deffensive ammo, same thing. Maybe i was limp wristing? I shot and shot, same results. As time went on it got worse, now it will only shoot about 3-4 rounds without a FTF or FTE. Does this mean I need a new spring of some sort or buffer? I dont know a whole lot about glocks. Thanks for any help anyone can give me. By the way this was a used gun, it was in about 90% shape when bought it. That was about 6 years, 700 rounds ago. Thanks again.

Don P · December 6, 2011, 03:33 PM

A Glock with a problem.

Can't be

they never break or malfunction so I have read on the INTERNET.

ohen cepel · December 6, 2011, 03:44 PM

I would try new mags, new recoil spring, and a good cleaning if you haven't already.

Also, make sure your extractor is clean and not broken.

With the age on it you may opt to send it back to Glock for them to go over it. Not sure about now, but years ago they would give it a once over and pretty much a full rebuild for a really good price. Worth looking into.

James K · December 6, 2011, 04:26 PM

Hi, hogfan,

You don't mention cleaning the gun. Unfortunately, Glocks tend to be so trouble free that some folks forget that they do have to be cleaned from time to time. Other than that, the problem may depend on just what kind of failure you are experiencing. "FTE" can mean failure to extract or failure to eject, two different problems with different probable causes.

Jim

1hogfan83 · December 6, 2011, 09:44 PM

Sorry about that, I have had problems with failure to extract. I clean my guns regularly, always within 24 hours of shooting.

ex_isp · December 11, 2011, 01:11 AM

I just started having this issue today for the FIRST time on my G22 (gen2).
Did full tear down and the only thing I could find was just a bit of gunk in the "canyon" of the extractor. Maybe it was preventing the extractor from getting a deep enough hold on the spent cartridge.?

All parts cleaned, inspected and spot lubed. Action cycles perfect by hand.

Week or two before I can test it but will follow up with post here.

Jerry45 · December 11, 2011, 10:31 PM

Check to see if the extractor is chipped or broken. If it is it needs to be replaced. If not you need a new extractor spring. If you don’t know how to replace it take it to a Glock armor or smith.

1SOW · December 12, 2011, 01:49 AM

The extractor likely has one of the problems listed above.

The first thing I would check is for the build-up of gunk behind the extractor limiting its movement. Some solvent and compressed air, or spray gun cleaner (wear eye protection) can clean the build-up out.

After a thorough cleaning in the extractor area, and being very safety conscious, I would hand feed and extract a mag of cartridges to check for proper function. Matter of fact, a "before and after" check with the hand feeding and extracting might be a better idea. Do it in a safe place/direction. Don't touch the trigger.

The extractor spring and claw would be next on my list to check. I believe the Glock forum may have "how to replace" info available.

Jerry45 · December 12, 2011, 09:16 AM

To remove the extractor you must first remove the rear slide cover. Be very careful or the extractor rod and spring will be launched into oblivion never to be found again. Or worse yet, you’ll poke your eye out. After the cover is off remove the rod and spring assembly. The extractor may fall out. If not remove it. Once the extractor is out the safety/striker block plunger should be removed. It will have a tiny spring accompanying it.

Here’s video. Last part is slide disassembly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No4SA6v6xjE

ex_isp · December 28, 2011, 08:34 PM

Did do a complete take down of the slide. Under magnification (old eyes), I could see thick build up in the hook of the extractor claw. As observed, this could prevent the extractor from getting a full "grip" on the spent shell.

Fully cleaned and re-assembled. Just waiting for the chance to go out again and test!

Will re-post with results.

Many thanks to all that have contributed to this thread.

ex_isp · January 8, 2012, 05:44 PM

After the through clean and detail strip of the slide, I finally got to take the G22 (gen2) out again today. Problem of failure to extract remains.

It's pulling the spent cartridge back about 1/4 inch then letting go of it, leaving it in the way of the incoming fresh round. Then slide won't close.

The extractor hook and all parts are clean with minimal lube. Visibly, the extractor hook is fine. Has every bit the hook depth that my G29 has.

Thoughts?

Roughedge · January 8, 2012, 05:59 PM

What ammo are you shooting? The blowback of the bullet should be enough to eject the shell and the extractor should hold it till the ejector kicks it out.sounds like the barrel where the round sits has something in it binding the brass or its expanding so much its binding . sometimes limp wristing will cause ejecting problems.

ex_isp · January 8, 2012, 06:43 PM

Todays test after the complete break-down and clean, used Remington 165 gn JHP (grn and yellow box), Winchester PDX, and Magtech rnd nose. All have run perfectly in this gun.

I'm wondering if I might "stretch" the extractor spring just a tad... Nah, should just replace.

This is a gun I've owned and shot extensively for 3 years. Not limp wristing.

Jerry45 · January 8, 2012, 07:00 PM

A new extractor spring is under $4.00. I’d replace it rather than play with stretching the one that's in it

trex1310 · January 13, 2012, 05:51 PM

If you do decide to do what Jerry45 recommends you might want
to do the work inside a large grocery bag. The bag will stop small
parts that try to escape. Be sure to use Glock safety below:

ex_isp · January 14, 2012, 07:49 PM

Bag is a good idea Trex!

Thanks!

ex_isp · January 25, 2012, 09:15 PM

Ordered a new extractor and spring. Having the new next to the old showed a difference I couldn't otherwise see.

The very tip of the old extractor "claw" is indeed chipped. Very likely been that way for a while as there is no fresh metal visible on it. But side by side there is a difference in shape.

Be three weeks until I can take it out and the suspense is killing me!

Post again when I get to test.

Thanks all for your valuable input!!!!

ClydeFrog · January 30, 2012, 09:23 PM

I agree that it might be the extractor or maybe the springs if the Glock is used.
For more custom work or repair details about Glock series pistols. See www.Glock.com www.glockbooks.com www.customizemyglock.com www.glockstore.com www.paladin-press.com .
To keep it clean with a high quality CLP like LPX, Gunzilla or Weaponshield is smart too.

December 6, 2011, 12:53 PM	#1
1hogfan83 Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2011 Location: Fayetteville AR Posts: 420	problems with my glock 22 A few months ago I started having problems with my glock, mainly with FTE. At first i thought i was bad ammo, i.e. cheap ammo. I bought some good deffensive ammo, same thing. Maybe i was limp wristing? I shot and shot, same results. As time went on it got worse, now it will only shoot about 3-4 rounds without a FTF or FTE. Does this mean I need a new spring of some sort or buffer? I dont know a whole lot about glocks. Thanks for any help anyone can give me. By the way this was a used gun, it was in about 90% shape when bought it. That was about 6 years, 700 rounds ago. Thanks again.

December 6, 2011, 03:33 PM	#2
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	A Glock with a problem. Can't be they never break or malfunction so I have read on the INTERNET. __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

December 6, 2011, 03:44 PM	#3
ohen cepel Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 1999 Location: Where they send me Posts: 1,013	I would try new mags, new recoil spring, and a good cleaning if you haven't already. Also, make sure your extractor is clean and not broken. With the age on it you may opt to send it back to Glock for them to go over it. Not sure about now, but years ago they would give it a once over and pretty much a full rebuild for a really good price. Worth looking into. __________________ He who dares wins. NRA Life Benefactor Member

December 11, 2011, 01:11 AM	#6
ex_isp Member Join Date: May 5, 2011 Location: Az Posts: 28	I just started having this issue today for the FIRST time on my G22 (gen2). Did full tear down and the only thing I could find was just a bit of gunk in the "canyon" of the extractor. Maybe it was preventing the extractor from getting a deep enough hold on the spent cartridge.? All parts cleaned, inspected and spot lubed. Action cycles perfect by hand. Week or two before I can test it but will follow up with post here. __________________ Not having Windows on your computer is like not having bricks tied to your dogs collar. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

December 11, 2011, 10:31 PM	#7
Jerry45 Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2000 Location: Metairie, Louisiana Posts: 890	Check to see if the extractor is chipped or broken. If it is it needs to be replaced. If not you need a new extractor spring. If you don’t know how to replace it take it to a Glock armor or smith. __________________ Guns are not dangerous! People are! RKBA!

December 6, 2011, 04:26 PM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Hi, hogfan, You don't mention cleaning the gun. Unfortunately, Glocks tend to be so trouble free that some folks forget that they do have to be cleaned from time to time. Other than that, the problem may depend on just what kind of failure you are experiencing. "FTE" can mean failure to extract or failure to eject, two different problems with different probable causes. Jim

December 6, 2011, 09:44 PM	#5
1hogfan83 Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2011 Location: Fayetteville AR Posts: 420	Sorry about that, I have had problems with failure to extract. I clean my guns regularly, always within 24 hours of shooting.

December 12, 2011, 01:49 AM	#8
1SOW Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: South TX Posts: 269	The extractor likely has one of the problems listed above. The first thing I would check is for the build-up of gunk behind the extractor limiting its movement. Some solvent and compressed air, or spray gun cleaner (wear eye protection) can clean the build-up out. After a thorough cleaning in the extractor area, and being very safety conscious, I would hand feed and extract a mag of cartridges to check for proper function. Matter of fact, a "before and after" check with the hand feeding and extracting might be a better idea. Do it in a safe place/direction. Don't touch the trigger. The extractor spring and claw would be next on my list to check. I believe the Glock forum may have "how to replace" info available. Last edited by 1SOW; December 12, 2011 at 01:57 AM.

December 12, 2011, 09:16 AM	#9
Jerry45 Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2000 Location: Metairie, Louisiana Posts: 890	To remove the extractor you must first remove the rear slide cover. Be very careful or the extractor rod and spring will be launched into oblivion never to be found again. Or worse yet, you’ll poke your eye out. After the cover is off remove the rod and spring assembly. The extractor may fall out. If not remove it. Once the extractor is out the safety/striker block plunger should be removed. It will have a tiny spring accompanying it. Here’s video. Last part is slide disassembly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No4SA6v6xjE __________________ Guns are not dangerous! People are! RKBA!

December 28, 2011, 08:34 PM	#10
ex_isp Member Join Date: May 5, 2011 Location: Az Posts: 28	Did do a complete take down of the slide. Under magnification (old eyes), I could see thick build up in the hook of the extractor claw. As observed, this could prevent the extractor from getting a full "grip" on the spent shell. Fully cleaned and re-assembled. Just waiting for the chance to go out again and test! Will re-post with results. Many thanks to all that have contributed to this thread. __________________ Not having Windows on your computer is like not having bricks tied to your dogs collar. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

January 8, 2012, 05:44 PM	#11
ex_isp Member Join Date: May 5, 2011 Location: Az Posts: 28	After the through clean and detail strip of the slide, I finally got to take the G22 (gen2) out again today. Problem of failure to extract remains. It's pulling the spent cartridge back about 1/4 inch then letting go of it, leaving it in the way of the incoming fresh round. Then slide won't close. The extractor hook and all parts are clean with minimal lube. Visibly, the extractor hook is fine. Has every bit the hook depth that my G29 has. Thoughts? __________________ Not having Windows on your computer is like not having bricks tied to your dogs collar. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

January 8, 2012, 05:59 PM	#12
Roughedge Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2011 Location: Monroe,NC Posts: 669	What ammo are you shooting? The blowback of the bullet should be enough to eject the shell and the extractor should hold it till the ejector kicks it out.sounds like the barrel where the round sits has something in it binding the brass or its expanding so much its binding . sometimes limp wristing will cause ejecting problems. __________________ The man that die's with the most stuff win's!

January 8, 2012, 06:43 PM	#13
ex_isp Member Join Date: May 5, 2011 Location: Az Posts: 28	Todays test after the complete break-down and clean, used Remington 165 gn JHP (grn and yellow box), Winchester PDX, and Magtech rnd nose. All have run perfectly in this gun. I'm wondering if I might "stretch" the extractor spring just a tad... Nah, should just replace. This is a gun I've owned and shot extensively for 3 years. Not limp wristing. __________________ Not having Windows on your computer is like not having bricks tied to your dogs collar. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

January 8, 2012, 07:00 PM	#14
Jerry45 Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2000 Location: Metairie, Louisiana Posts: 890	A new extractor spring is under $4.00. I’d replace it rather than play with stretching the one that's in it __________________ Guns are not dangerous! People are! RKBA!

January 13, 2012, 05:51 PM	#15
trex1310 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 389	If you do decide to do what Jerry45 recommends you might want to do the work inside a large grocery bag. The bag will stop small parts that try to escape. Be sure to use Glock safety below: __________________ NRA Life Member Certified in laziness Certified in watching TV Certified in BBQ on the Green Egg

January 14, 2012, 07:49 PM	#16
ex_isp Member Join Date: May 5, 2011 Location: Az Posts: 28	Bag is a good idea Trex! Thanks! __________________ Not having Windows on your computer is like not having bricks tied to your dogs collar. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

January 25, 2012, 09:15 PM	#17
ex_isp Member Join Date: May 5, 2011 Location: Az Posts: 28	new parts arrived Ordered a new extractor and spring. Having the new next to the old showed a difference I couldn't otherwise see. The very tip of the old extractor "claw" is indeed chipped. Very likely been that way for a while as there is no fresh metal visible on it. But side by side there is a difference in shape. Be three weeks until I can take it out and the suspense is killing me! Post again when I get to test. Thanks all for your valuable input!!!! __________________ Not having Windows on your computer is like not having bricks tied to your dogs collar. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

January 30, 2012, 09:23 PM	#18
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	Still making your Glock rock.... I agree that it might be the extractor or maybe the springs if the Glock is used. For more custom work or repair details about Glock series pistols. See www.Glock.com www.glockbooks.com www.customizemyglock.com www.glockstore.com www.paladin-press.com . To keep it clean with a high quality CLP like LPX, Gunzilla or Weaponshield is smart too.

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