A new Walther - Page 2

wild cat mccane · June 26, 2014, 10:13 PM

Actually, there is a comparison between the P99 and the Canik TP-9.

http://wookieswords.blogspot.com/201...lther-p99.html

I am waiting for the Desert Tan to come back and I will be picking up the TP-9.

(Great job on discontinuing the Tan Walther--not

)

JimmyR · June 26, 2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Malice

If you like DA/SA, then why are you going striker at all - just because of price point? Something like the SIG SP2022 would be a good contender here it sounds like.

I have been wondering that myself. I guess I'm trying to branch out and try something new, and with the p99 being a step in that direction. My biggest thing I was looking for was a compact size 9mm (something I can tuck away into my car safe when I go into work). That's why I had looked at all the smaller sized 9mms, and not spent as much focus on the full size. I've looked at the SP2022 multiple times, and I know Sig Sauer is great brand. It's just never really spoken to me.

kinoons · June 27, 2014, 12:36 AM

I'll be the dissenting opinion regarding the P99AS; I had one and hated it. There is a small "bump" where the long and light AS trigger pull passes the shot and light SA trigger point is. You actually can stop the trigger pull at that moment and have a SA trigger if you want it; or you can keep pulling until the pistol fires.

That bump drove me crazy; I couldn't get accustom to it. I sold it and never looked back.

On the other hand, the trigger on the PPQ is perfection.

Water-Man · June 27, 2014, 01:00 AM

Another one to look at is the new Sig P320 Carry.

kcub · June 27, 2014, 07:17 AM

You could get a used HK which will still be functional long after we've all been consumed by worms.

PP99 · June 27, 2014, 08:57 AM

What about the Magnum-Research-MR9-Eagle-15-Round?

Dirty_Harry · June 27, 2014, 09:10 AM

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On the other hand, the trigger on the PPQ is perfection.

That is a matter of opinion. One I disagree with very much.

kinoons · June 27, 2014, 09:35 AM

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That is a matter of opinion. One I disagree with very much.

Any discussion regarding triggers is a matter of opinion, I thought that was implied. Fortunately that is why there are such a large and varied number of firearms being produced; look long enough and you'll find something you like.

wnycollector · June 27, 2014, 09:49 AM

My new EDC is a S&W 990 in 9mm. Other than a S&W logo and stainless slide it's a Walther P99 QA. I have ~1500 rounds through it without a single hiccup. This gun eats anything from Russian steel case,RNL reloads to +p+ jhps.

I would buy a either the PPQ or P99 AS without hesitation.

DA/SA Fan · June 27, 2014, 10:07 AM

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What about the Magnum-Research-MR9-Eagle-15-Round?

Since the baby Desert Eagle is made in the same Turkish factory as the Caniks, I would assume that the MR9 is the same as the Canik TP9.

marine6680 · June 27, 2014, 11:44 AM

I fondled one if those caniks... Interesting design.

It was comfortable, and the trigger wasn't bad, it could be called... Good.

The decock is a little odd in a striker, and the set type style the trigger acts like in its "SA" mode would take a little getting used to, like an odd DA or two stage trigger, I think it stays set for subsequent shots... Can't remember. It did have a short reset if that is something one likes.

Dirty_Harry · June 27, 2014, 12:48 PM

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Any discussion regarding triggers is a matter of opinion, I thought that was implied. Fortunately that is why there are such a large and varied number of firearms being produced; look long enough and you'll find something you like.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Some people make those bold claims, and expect everyone to agree with them.

Personally I prefer a slightly heavier striker trigger. To ME The FNS-9 trigger is my favorite to date.

sopwith21 · June 27, 2014, 02:59 PM

Regarding Kinoons complaint about the P99...

The "bump" in the P99's trigger is easily averted by pressing the manual de-cocker, which puts the pistol back in true double-action format.

The P99 is one of the few striker pistols to offer a means of going from DA to SA via an internal mechanism rather than a hammer. It's actually quite handy and a wonderful, innovative feature once you learn to use it.

If you really don't like it, press the de-cocker after racking the slide and you'll never feel it again.

PP99 · June 27, 2014, 07:20 PM

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Since the baby Desert Eagle is made in the same Turkish factory as the Caniks, I would assume that the MR9 is the same as the Canik TP9.
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Kahr Arms, is a USA based manufacturer, so I would assume that the MR9 is not the same as Canik.

Uncle Malice · June 27, 2014, 11:05 PM

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Kahr Arms, is a USA based manufacturer, so I would assume that the MR9 is not the same as Canik.

Where in the world did Kahr come into this discussion?

DA/SA Fan · June 28, 2014, 02:29 AM

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Kahr Arms, is a USA based manufacturer, so I would assume that the MR9 is not the same as Canik.

You are right. I found that the Magnum Research pistol is a licensed copy of the Walther. It's made in the U.S. on a German frame.

Pilot · June 28, 2014, 07:04 AM

Must you have polymer? If so the P99 is a fine choice, as are many others however, you may want to consider the CZ-75D PCR lightweight, alloy compact 9MM. My favorite carry, and all around pistol.

kinoons · June 29, 2014, 04:42 PM

Sopwith21:

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The "bump" in the P99's trigger is easily averted by pressing the manual de-cocker, which puts the pistol back in true double-action format.

True, but that does negate one of the big selling points of the AS trigger. I moved past that ship many years ago and then relatively recently got my PPQ; I just point out this issue because if it bothered me, it may bother someone else.

Fishbed77 · June 29, 2014, 10:42 PM

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Since the baby Desert Eagle is made in the same Turkish factory as the Caniks, I would assume that the MR9 is the same as the Canik TP9.

It is not.

The MR9 is a licensed copy of the P99 that is made by Magnum Research (which is owned by Kahr) in the US on a polymer frame that is made by Walther in Germany.

JimmyR · June 30, 2014, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot

Must you have polymer? If so the P99 is a fine choice, as are many others however, you may want to consider the CZ-75D PCR lightweight, alloy compact 9MM. My favorite carry, and all around pistol.

My CZ 75BD is one of my favorite guns of all time. If I stumbled across a PCR before picking up the walther, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I just haven't seen any locally, used or retail. Kinda like Bigfoot, I beleive it might be out there somewhere, I hear people talking about it, but never seen one for myself.

JimmyR · July 2, 2014, 05:29 AM

Ok, so I was planning on a Walther for all this time. I see this CZ P07, and think it might be a decent pick, but I'm set on the Walther. Then the price starts dropping...and dropping...and dropping. Finally decided to make an offer, and I can get it with 2 mags and a polished feedramp for $350.

How could I say no?

I guess now I have even more time to think about whick Walther I want, but for now, this is gonna be it.

Uncle Malice · July 2, 2014, 06:58 AM

Geez, I don't even like the P07, but for that price I'd pick it up too. haha.

Congrats.

JimmyR · July 2, 2014, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Malice

Geez, I don't even like the P07, but for that price I'd pick it up too. haha.

Congrats.

I know! I mean, I like the feel, but wasn't in love with it. I'm cheap, though, and a good quality cheap gun, I think I can handle.

JimmyR · July 4, 2014, 01:10 AM

I picked up my P07 today, and wrote a review for TFL here:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...26#post5872426

I will be asking the mods to close this thread, as the discussion is pretty much over.

View Poll Results: Pistol Suggestions for a 9mm
Walther P99 AS	22	38.60%
Walther PPQ	22	38.60%
Other pistol that isn't a Glock, Beretta PX4 and 92, Kahr CM9, XD/XDs, SR, or Sig 938	8	14.04%
One of the pistols you said you didn't like and I want to be stubborn or I just didn't read the OP.	5	8.77%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

June 27, 2014, 02:59 PM	#38
sopwith21 Junior Member Join Date: February 18, 2001 Posts: 11	Regarding Kinoons complaint about the P99... The "bump" in the P99's trigger is easily averted by pressing the manual de-cocker, which puts the pistol back in true double-action format. The P99 is one of the few striker pistols to offer a means of going from DA to SA via an internal mechanism rather than a hammer. It's actually quite handy and a wonderful, innovative feature once you learn to use it. If you really don't like it, press the de-cocker after racking the slide and you'll never feel it again. __________________ "Aim small, miss small."

June 28, 2014, 07:04 AM	#42
Pilot Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2000 Posts: 4,193	Must you have polymer? If so the P99 is a fine choice, as are many others however, you may want to consider the CZ-75D PCR lightweight, alloy compact 9MM. My favorite carry, and all around pistol. __________________ Pilot

July 2, 2014, 06:58 AM	#47
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	Geez, I don't even like the P07, but for that price I'd pick it up too. haha. Congrats. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

June 26, 2014, 10:13 PM	#26
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,629	Actually, there is a comparison between the P99 and the Canik TP-9. http://wookieswords.blogspot.com/201...lther-p99.html I am waiting for the Desert Tan to come back and I will be picking up the TP-9. (Great job on discontinuing the Tan Walther--not )

June 27, 2014, 12:36 AM	#28
kinoons Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2008 Location: las vegas, NV Posts: 409	I'll be the dissenting opinion regarding the P99AS; I had one and hated it. There is a small "bump" where the long and light AS trigger pull passes the shot and light SA trigger point is. You actually can stop the trigger pull at that moment and have a SA trigger if you want it; or you can keep pulling until the pistol fires. That bump drove me crazy; I couldn't get accustom to it. I sold it and never looked back. On the other hand, the trigger on the PPQ is perfection.

June 27, 2014, 01:00 AM	#29
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,126	Another one to look at is the new Sig P320 Carry.

June 27, 2014, 07:17 AM	#30
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	You could get a used HK which will still be functional long after we've all been consumed by worms.

June 27, 2014, 08:57 AM	#31
PP99 Member Join Date: August 16, 2013 Posts: 85	What about the Magnum-Research-MR9-Eagle-15-Round?

June 27, 2014, 09:49 AM	#34
wnycollector Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2007 Posts: 1,996	My new EDC is a S&W 990 in 9mm. Other than a S&W logo and stainless slide it's a Walther P99 QA. I have ~1500 rounds through it without a single hiccup. This gun eats anything from Russian steel case,RNL reloads to +p+ jhps. I would buy a either the PPQ or P99 AS without hesitation.

June 27, 2014, 11:44 AM	#36
marine6680 Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2012 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 4,594	I fondled one if those caniks... Interesting design. It was comfortable, and the trigger wasn't bad, it could be called... Good. The decock is a little odd in a striker, and the set type style the trigger acts like in its "SA" mode would take a little getting used to, like an odd DA or two stage trigger, I think it stays set for subsequent shots... Can't remember. It did have a short reset if that is something one likes.

June 27, 2014, 07:20 PM	#39
PP99 Member Join Date: August 16, 2013 Posts: 85	Quote: _____________________________________ Since the baby Desert Eagle is made in the same Turkish factory as the Caniks, I would assume that the MR9 is the same as the Canik TP9. _____________________________________ Kahr Arms, is a USA based manufacturer, so I would assume that the MR9 is not the same as Canik.