Would you trust your life to ammo you have never tested? - Page 2

drjeffrock · January 9, 2006, 02:21 PM

Thanks for the replies everyone. Lots of good info here.
I plan on going to the range that allows jhps in a couple weeks. Only problem is that this range is super out of my way and schedule, and I am already paying for one somewhere else.

I plan on putting a hundred rounds of jhps through the USP as well as the Champion.
I might have to sell my sexy rearend on the corner to pay for the Hydra-shoks, but oh well.

On a somewhat related note, I had my first experience with a defective round. It was WWB FMJ 9mm (in the USPf,) and it was the final round in the magazine on maybe my 80th round. I pulled the trigger, knew there was still one round left. Except the empty mag, I tried racking the slide, but it would not move. As I was at the range, and not in a shtf situation I called over the range officer to take a look. He racked the slide forcefully, and from the bottom of the magazine area dropped a really bent round. The brass casing had a huge dent in it.
The range officer swore up and down that it was defective from the factory. I field stripped it, everything looked fine, so I ran another 60 rounds through it without a hiccup.
Still, it was valuable at showing me the importance of being able to clear a dud quickly, as swmike said earlier. I have also used snap caps to help make sure I have a good grip, and am not flinching.
Oh, and the front white dot sight from my USP popped out as well. I wanted to get Mepro night sites, but my buddies insisted that I black out the white rear dots and try using all black first. Some of them are pretty good shots, so I cant really argue with them. I am not quite sure how I am liking them though...
Mikeyboy, no offense taken. In fact, check out the other range rules: No rapid fire (only one shot per second,) no shotgun, no rifles.
My other local range does allow rifles and shotguns, but I have just seen a few dangerous situations there and had been put off from joining there. I saw on numerous occassions, homie-g thugs rolls in with Glocks in their waistband (obviously lacking a CCW here in Kalifornia.) other gangsta-thugs practing how fast they can pull the trigger without hitting the piece of paper in front of them, among other stuff. People handing loaded weapons to each other haphazardly among other stuff. Both those ranges are indoor-only, by the way,
Trip20, thanks! I really lucked out on the Champion. I bought it "blindly." I had not had a chance to shoot any Commander-sized 1911s, but I loved the way it felt in my hand. It felt very comfortable.
I rationalized the USP purchase in order to "save money, as .45 ammo is so expensive."

Before settling on the USP I narrowed down the 9mm field to the p226, 92fs, Bhp, and Glock 17. All are great, in their own way. I honestly think I would have been happy with any of those. I think I will hold off on any more guns for a while and focus on taking tactical courses and other classes that allow me to shoot the two I currently have better.
And I do believe the range rules against JHPs is completely due to liability issues, and worrying about them exploding hollow points.

Thanks again for the replies, they have been quite informative.

Blackwater OPS · January 9, 2006, 03:14 PM

Obviously not, also keep in mind that ammo can vary by lot. Just because you bought a box of X ammo 6 months ago and it was great does not mean that the exact same ammo you buy today from the store will work the same in your gun.

Mikeyboy · January 9, 2006, 03:24 PM

+1 for Blackwater.

I'm getting into the habit of putting a dent into a box of ammo, by shoot 5 or 10 rounds out of a box of 50 before loading that ammo into a magazine of a defensive weapon. If I have any problems with those 5 or 10 rounds, I use the ammo for the range only. You never want to find out you bought a bad box of ammo, in a life or death situation.

January 9, 2006, 03:14 PM	#27
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January 9, 2006, 02:21 PM	#26
drjeffrock Member Join Date: November 12, 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 42	Thanks for the replies everyone. Lots of good info here. I plan on going to the range that allows jhps in a couple weeks. Only problem is that this range is super out of my way and schedule, and I am already paying for one somewhere else. I plan on putting a hundred rounds of jhps through the USP as well as the Champion. I might have to sell my sexy rearend on the corner to pay for the Hydra-shoks, but oh well. On a somewhat related note, I had my first experience with a defective round. It was WWB FMJ 9mm (in the USPf,) and it was the final round in the magazine on maybe my 80th round. I pulled the trigger, knew there was still one round left. Except the empty mag, I tried racking the slide, but it would not move. As I was at the range, and not in a shtf situation I called over the range officer to take a look. He racked the slide forcefully, and from the bottom of the magazine area dropped a really bent round. The brass casing had a huge dent in it. The range officer swore up and down that it was defective from the factory. I field stripped it, everything looked fine, so I ran another 60 rounds through it without a hiccup. Still, it was valuable at showing me the importance of being able to clear a dud quickly, as swmike said earlier. I have also used snap caps to help make sure I have a good grip, and am not flinching. Oh, and the front white dot sight from my USP popped out as well. I wanted to get Mepro night sites, but my buddies insisted that I black out the white rear dots and try using all black first. Some of them are pretty good shots, so I cant really argue with them. I am not quite sure how I am liking them though... Mikeyboy, no offense taken. In fact, check out the other range rules: No rapid fire (only one shot per second,) no shotgun, no rifles. My other local range does allow rifles and shotguns, but I have just seen a few dangerous situations there and had been put off from joining there. I saw on numerous occassions, homie-g thugs rolls in with Glocks in their waistband (obviously lacking a CCW here in Kalifornia.) other gangsta-thugs practing how fast they can pull the trigger without hitting the piece of paper in front of them, among other stuff. People handing loaded weapons to each other haphazardly among other stuff. Both those ranges are indoor-only, by the way, Trip20, thanks! I really lucked out on the Champion. I bought it "blindly." I had not had a chance to shoot any Commander-sized 1911s, but I loved the way it felt in my hand. It felt very comfortable. I rationalized the USP purchase in order to "save money, as .45 ammo is so expensive." Before settling on the USP I narrowed down the 9mm field to the p226, 92fs, Bhp, and Glock 17. All are great, in their own way. I honestly think I would have been happy with any of those. I think I will hold off on any more guns for a while and focus on taking tactical courses and other classes that allow me to shoot the two I currently have better. And I do believe the range rules against JHPs is completely due to liability issues, and worrying about them exploding hollow points. Thanks again for the replies, they have been quite informative.

January 9, 2006, 03:24 PM	#28
Mikeyboy Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Posts: 1,231	+1 for Blackwater. I'm getting into the habit of putting a dent into a box of ammo, by shoot 5 or 10 rounds out of a box of 50 before loading that ammo into a magazine of a defensive weapon. If I have any problems with those 5 or 10 rounds, I use the ammo for the range only. You never want to find out you bought a bad box of ammo, in a life or death situation.