Handgun scope - Page 2

TMD · March 25, 2013, 08:19 PM

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.44 mags and .454 Casull's may be hard on a scope but the true test is this beast. .460 mag and my pet load is a 300gn XTP with 44grains of Lil'Gun. Pushes it a little over 2000fps and about 2900lbs of energy.
Like I said earlier, the Nikons don't hold up and their lifetime warrany isn't worth the headaches after breaking two of them. The second one they sent me only lasted about 10 shots. The Burris is darn near indestructable.

Stevie-Ray · March 30, 2013, 04:25 PM

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my pet load is a 300gn XTP with 44grains of Lil'Gun. Pushes it a little over 2000fps and about 2900lbs of energy.

You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.

kcub · April 2, 2013, 04:46 AM

Nikon are very bright and clear and priced very fair for being as good if not better than Zeiss, Swarovski, and other high end optics.

blfuller · April 2, 2013, 11:46 AM

UltraDot on a DE. No magnification. Point and shoot.

BoogieMan · April 2, 2013, 02:24 PM

@TMD- Is that the posi-lock Burris or the standard?

TMD · April 2, 2013, 09:11 PM

Heck if I know. Its their 3x12 pistol scope. Its fun to tag a 12" steel plate @ 300 yards though.

BillCnKC · April 10, 2013, 09:24 AM

All--

Like most long-time shooters, I have accumulated different brands of scope over the years. However, I stick with Burris and Leupold on new purchases. Here's a Leupold 2-8x32, one of my favorites, mounted on a 10" barrel . . .

--Bill

blfuller · April 12, 2013, 02:06 PM

Is that DE finish polished blue with TiN accents? Looks nice.

BillCnKC · April 12, 2013, 03:53 PM

blfuller--

Thanks! It is black chrome with titanium gold accents. MRI has since discontinued the black chrome finish. It is hard and has held up well since 2003. My information is that they had vendor quality control problems.

The .50 has a 10" barrel and a chrome, jeweled bolt.

Another blatantly gratuitous picture . . .

--Bill

newfrontier45 · April 13, 2013, 12:08 PM

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.44 mags and .454 Casull's may be hard on a scope but the true test is this beast.

Not really. Your sixgun weighs at least five pounds, has a bipod and a muzzle brake. A lightweight .44 or .454 will be much harder on a scope than your short rifle.

TMD · April 13, 2013, 04:06 PM

.44 mag has no where near the chamber pressure of the .460 and .500 mags. Not saying a light weight .44 isnt a handfull by anymeans but they are nothing like the big guns.

newfrontier45 · April 13, 2013, 06:29 PM

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.44 mag has no where near the chamber pressure of the .460 and .500 mags.

Pressure is irrelevant. Recoil energy and velocity is what is relevant and a .44 or .454 that weighs half as much will place far greater strain on a scope than your monstrosity. Your sixgun, without all that crap on it, goes 82oz. That's 5.2lbs plus an oversized scope which will be at least another pound and a bipod that probably pushes a pound too. Sorry but this is basic stuff.

TMD · April 13, 2013, 09:59 PM

If you say so but its all irrelevent becuae guess what "IT BROKE TWO NIKON SCOPES".

I own several .44 mags from a 4.6" Super Blackhawk and to a S&W PC model 629-4. Also have owned a .454 Super Redhawk in the past. They do not compare to the .460. And is you think champer pressure is irrelevant then you obviously never shot one. Heavy bullets loaded to the max make for a shock wave that will definately get your attention.

big al hunter · April 14, 2013, 01:42 PM

Get the Burris posi-lock. It has a screw opposite the adjusting turrets that locks the reticle tube in place rather than depending on springs to keep it in place. Darn near indestructible. I put a 2-7x posi-lock on my 454 after it destroyed the second scope. LOVE it.

newfrontier45 · April 14, 2013, 05:53 PM

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I own several .44 mags from a 4.6" Super Blackhawk and to a S&W PC model 629-4. Also have owned a .454 Super Redhawk in the past. They do not compare to the .460. And is you think champer pressure is irrelevant then you obviously never shot one. Heavy bullets loaded to the max make for a shock wave that will definately get your attention.

Pressure doesn't destroy scopes, recoil does. Sorry but a 7lb .460 is simply not going to punish a scope like a 40oz .454. Perhaps you're confusing muzzle blast with recoil???

Capt Rick Hiott · April 14, 2013, 06:10 PM

Check the books guys,,,,the .454 has the highest pressure of the 460 and the 500. I think its 64,000 SAMI

Common sense would tell you that a heaver gun in the same class would have less recoil...............

22-rimfire · April 14, 2013, 11:01 PM

Been a while since I checked the specs but when I bought my Leupold 2x EER it had the longest eye relief and a great guarantee. This is mounted on a 480 SRH. Had no problems with it in a number of years of use.

I'm waiting on a Ultradot that I am mounting on a 480/475 BFR. This will be my first red dot. I have been told that they are tough as nails. I envision shots out to 100-125 yds max and more comfortably in the 75 yd area in the woods.

If I were buying for a X-frame 460, I'd go with the variable Leupold (2-6x I believe) as you want to take longer shots. Use locktite (red?.. the non-permanent type) on the mount screws or it will work loose quickly.

As your first scope on a handgun, you will be in for some learning and adjusting as I expect you are comfortable with scopes on rifles. Hint: Even from a rest, think in terms of quick shots versus "scoping" the target as you might with a rifle. Even from a rest, you will see an amazing amount of movement. I suggest using a monopod hunting.

March 25, 2013, 08:19 PM	#26
TMD Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,293	[IMG][/IMG] .44 mags and .454 Casull's may be hard on a scope but the true test is this beast. .460 mag and my pet load is a 300gn XTP with 44grains of Lil'Gun. Pushes it a little over 2000fps and about 2900lbs of energy. Like I said earlier, the Nikons don't hold up and their lifetime warrany isn't worth the headaches after breaking two of them. The second one they sent me only lasted about 10 shots. The Burris is darn near indestructable.

April 2, 2013, 02:24 PM	#30
BoogieMan Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,217	@TMD- Is that the posi-lock Burris or the standard? __________________ Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown

April 12, 2013, 03:53 PM	#34
BillCnKC Senior Member Join Date: April 21, 2005 Location: The Land Of Oz Posts: 208	blfuller-- Thanks! It is black chrome with titanium gold accents. MRI has since discontinued the black chrome finish. It is hard and has held up well since 2003. My information is that they had vendor quality control problems. The .50 has a 10" barrel and a chrome, jeweled bolt. Another blatantly gratuitous picture . . . --Bill __________________ You are what you write.

April 14, 2013, 01:42 PM	#39
big al hunter Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2011 Location: Washington state Posts: 1,558	Get the Burris posi-lock. It has a screw opposite the adjusting turrets that locks the reticle tube in place rather than depending on springs to keep it in place. Darn near indestructible. I put a 2-7x posi-lock on my 454 after it destroyed the second scope. LOVE it. __________________ You can't fix stupid....however ignorance can be cured through education!

April 14, 2013, 06:10 PM	#41
Capt Rick Hiott Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 376	Check the books guys,,,,the .454 has the highest pressure of the 460 and the 500. I think its 64,000 SAMI Common sense would tell you that a heaver gun in the same class would have less recoil............... __________________ Capt Rick Hiott Charleston,SC

April 2, 2013, 04:46 AM	#28
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	Nikon are very bright and clear and priced very fair for being as good if not better than Zeiss, Swarovski, and other high end optics.

April 2, 2013, 11:46 AM	#29
blfuller Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 246	UltraDot on a DE. No magnification. Point and shoot.

April 2, 2013, 09:11 PM	#31
TMD Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,293	Heck if I know. Its their 3x12 pistol scope. Its fun to tag a 12" steel plate @ 300 yards though.

April 10, 2013, 09:24 AM	#32
BillCnKC Senior Member Join Date: April 21, 2005 Location: The Land Of Oz Posts: 208	All-- Like most long-time shooters, I have accumulated different brands of scope over the years. However, I stick with Burris and Leupold on new purchases. Here's a Leupold 2-8x32, one of my favorites, mounted on a 10" barrel . . . --Bill

April 12, 2013, 02:06 PM	#33
blfuller Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 246	Is that DE finish polished blue with TiN accents? Looks nice.

April 13, 2013, 04:06 PM	#36
TMD Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,293	.44 mag has no where near the chamber pressure of the .460 and .500 mags. Not saying a light weight .44 isnt a handfull by anymeans but they are nothing like the big guns.

April 13, 2013, 09:59 PM	#38
TMD Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,293	If you say so but its all irrelevent becuae guess what "IT BROKE TWO NIKON SCOPES". I own several .44 mags from a 4.6" Super Blackhawk and to a S&W PC model 629-4. Also have owned a .454 Super Redhawk in the past. They do not compare to the .460. And is you think champer pressure is irrelevant then you obviously never shot one. Heavy bullets loaded to the max make for a shock wave that will definately get your attention.

April 14, 2013, 11:01 PM	#42
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	Been a while since I checked the specs but when I bought my Leupold 2x EER it had the longest eye relief and a great guarantee. This is mounted on a 480 SRH. Had no problems with it in a number of years of use. I'm waiting on a Ultradot that I am mounting on a 480/475 BFR. This will be my first red dot. I have been told that they are tough as nails. I envision shots out to 100-125 yds max and more comfortably in the 75 yd area in the woods. If I were buying for a X-frame 460, I'd go with the variable Leupold (2-6x I believe) as you want to take longer shots. Use locktite (red?.. the non-permanent type) on the mount screws or it will work loose quickly. As your first scope on a handgun, you will be in for some learning and adjusting as I expect you are comfortable with scopes on rifles. Hint: Even from a rest, think in terms of quick shots versus "scoping" the target as you might with a rifle. Even from a rest, you will see an amazing amount of movement. I suggest using a monopod hunting.