Drop Your Own Weapon. - Page 2

Mr. James · January 19, 2006, 04:06 PM

Read the The Onion Field, by Joseph Wambaugh.

Mannlicher · January 19, 2006, 06:41 PM

I ain't dropping anything.

Dwight55 · January 19, 2006, 07:12 PM

The old memory may not be correct but I think it may have been Charles Bronson in one of those mid 70's modern westerns, . . . he was a bad dude who knew martial arts, . . . got into some kind of out West, Native American religious experience, . . . then had to do battle with a bunch of drugged out hippies with a lever action rifle.

The hippie bad dude was right when he told him "You can't kill all of us" so he just killed the leader (dead between the eyes, . . . broke his white sun glasses in half), . . . then addressed the second in command, . . . and all of a sudden our hero got whatever it was he wanted.

It ain't often you learn something useful from a movie, . . . but that one I never forgot. I still think it is the best answer, . . . shoot the talker, . . . then shoot the ones that move, . . . pretty soon you'll be in charge.

May God bless,
Dwight

joab · January 19, 2006, 07:24 PM

Wasn't that Tom McGlaughlin playing Billy Jack in The Born Losers

joab · January 19, 2006, 07:28 PM

Just thought of this

Remember The Wild Bunch

holden shot the general who was doing the talkiing, then after a long pause Ernie shot the first one that went for his gun.

but that didn't turn out so good for them, Nevermind

Dwight55 · January 19, 2006, 07:35 PM

Don't know for sure, Joab, . . . been too long ago, . . . was a once seen movie in a drive in on Friday nite.

I just remember the good guy shot the bad hippy between the eyes and busted those great big wide white frame sun glasses, . . . the scene was shot in real slow motion, . . . the dead hippy falls over a couch, . . . bounces, . . . hits the floor, . . . bounces some more. Then I think they showed it again in real speed.

Anyway, . . . rest of them hippies didn't want no more to do with a lever action dude trying to be like the Indians or something.

May God bless,
Dwight

mjolnir · January 20, 2006, 08:54 PM

The "drop your weapon" scene is just another cliche used by lazy leftist scriptwriters that have never handled a firearm in their lives. It saves on having to actually think of something original. There's something masochistically appealing to the leftist mindset about surrender and submission to evil...the hero having to sustain humiliation/defeat before achieving final glorious victory.

Humbug. Life isn't a flugging storyline where you get to write the ending.

Like anything else involving Hollywood & guns...

Do any of us remember, sing praises to, or have mementos of the Vichy French?

Or do we admire and remember those who've faced that decision for real...the Spartans, Romans, Vikings, Alamo-ans, etc.?

GUNSMOKE45441 · January 20, 2006, 09:11 PM

Thousands of Sheeple saw that brainwashing, and believed that if you surrender you weapons, you will be ok.
Shoot the talker!!

siotwo · January 20, 2006, 09:30 PM

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Wasn't that Tom McGlaughlin playing Billy Jack

Yup, Billy Jack

One tin soldier rides awaaayyy....(billy jack song)

RioShooter · January 20, 2006, 09:30 PM

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My question is...would you ever drop your weapon? Even in this situation?

Thanks for the question. It's always driven me crazy watching TV and movies when an armed individual surrenders their weapon. I usually scream at the TV, NOOOOOOO!!!!!

Why even carry a weapon if you're willing to give it up?

joab · January 20, 2006, 10:08 PM

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One tin soldier rides awaaayyy....(billy jack song)

That song has been running through my head all day. I didn't make the connection until I read this

Bender711 · January 20, 2006, 10:40 PM

lets see are there less then 18 BG's if so then not a chance
if there is more, im kill 17 of them and saving one for me.

or i could just pull a chck norris and round house kick them to the face1!!

azurefly · January 21, 2006, 03:45 AM

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Yup, Billy Jack

One tin soldier rides awaaayyy....(billy jack song)

I guess I'm gonna have to go out and get Billy Jack on DVD, then. Never seen it, but it sounds worthwhile for this one scene alone -- as a training video!

As far as, "Drop your weapon!" goes -- it must be understood that it's only for bad guys to be told that by good guys: society is supposed to understand that when a good guy forces a bad guy to drop his weapon, it's to take him in unharmed (otherwise he'd just shoot him, right?). When a bad guy forces a good guy to drop his weapon, what would one expect the bad guy would do then? "Take him in"? That's not the job of bad guys, so no. It would most likely be to kill the good guy without being shot at.

-azurefly

joab · January 21, 2006, 08:02 AM

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I guess I'm gonna have to go out and get Billy Jack on DVD, then. Never seen it, but it sounds worthwhile for this one scene alone -- as a training video!

There was a series of them in the early 70s

Billy Jack was a blue eyed indian that left the reservation to join the Green Berets and learn karate.
He came back and kicked people in the face for killing horses

Despite a deep personal grudge against the star I still love those movies

You can always walk up to the leader and tell him
"I'm gonna take this leg and kick you on that side of your face. And there's nothing you can do about it"

January 19, 2006, 04:06 PM	#26
Mr. James Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: The Old Dominion Posts: 1,521	The Onion Field Read the The Onion Field, by Joseph Wambaugh. __________________ "...A humble and contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise." Ps. li "When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." —Frederic Bastiat

January 19, 2006, 06:41 PM	#27
Mannlicher Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: North Central Florida & Miami Posts: 3,209	I ain't dropping anything. __________________ Nemo Me Impune Lacesset "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.".........Ronald Reagan

January 19, 2006, 07:12 PM	#28
Dwight55 Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 2,568	The old memory may not be correct but I think it may have been Charles Bronson in one of those mid 70's modern westerns, . . . he was a bad dude who knew martial arts, . . . got into some kind of out West, Native American religious experience, . . . then had to do battle with a bunch of drugged out hippies with a lever action rifle. The hippie bad dude was right when he told him "You can't kill all of us" so he just killed the leader (dead between the eyes, . . . broke his white sun glasses in half), . . . then addressed the second in command, . . . and all of a sudden our hero got whatever it was he wanted. It ain't often you learn something useful from a movie, . . . but that one I never forgot. I still think it is the best answer, . . . shoot the talker, . . . then shoot the ones that move, . . . pretty soon you'll be in charge. May God bless, Dwight __________________ www.dwightsgunleather.com If you can breathe, . . . thank God! If you can read, . . . thank a teacher! If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a Veteran!

January 19, 2006, 07:24 PM	#29
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	Wasn't that Tom McGlaughlin playing Billy Jack in The Born Losers __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

January 19, 2006, 07:28 PM	#30
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	Just thought of this Remember The Wild Bunch holden shot the general who was doing the talkiing, then after a long pause Ernie shot the first one that went for his gun. but that didn't turn out so good for them, Nevermind __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

January 19, 2006, 07:35 PM	#31
Dwight55 Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 2,568	Don't know for sure, Joab, . . . been too long ago, . . . was a once seen movie in a drive in on Friday nite. I just remember the good guy shot the bad hippy between the eyes and busted those great big wide white frame sun glasses, . . . the scene was shot in real slow motion, . . . the dead hippy falls over a couch, . . . bounces, . . . hits the floor, . . . bounces some more. Then I think they showed it again in real speed. Anyway, . . . rest of them hippies didn't want no more to do with a lever action dude trying to be like the Indians or something. May God bless, Dwight __________________ www.dwightsgunleather.com If you can breathe, . . . thank God! If you can read, . . . thank a teacher! If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a Veteran!

January 20, 2006, 08:54 PM	#32
mjolnir Member Join Date: February 13, 2005 Location: Valhalla Posts: 79	The "drop your weapon" scene is just another cliche used by lazy leftist scriptwriters that have never handled a firearm in their lives. It saves on having to actually think of something original. There's something masochistically appealing to the leftist mindset about surrender and submission to evil...the hero having to sustain humiliation/defeat before achieving final glorious victory. Humbug. Life isn't a flugging storyline where you get to write the ending. Like anything else involving Hollywood & guns... Do any of us remember, sing praises to, or have mementos of the Vichy French? Or do we admire and remember those who've faced that decision for real...the Spartans, Romans, Vikings, Alamo-ans, etc.?

January 20, 2006, 09:11 PM	#33
GUNSMOKE45441 Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2004 Posts: 129	Thousands of Sheeple saw that brainwashing, and believed that if you surrender you weapons, you will be ok. Shoot the talker!!

January 20, 2006, 10:40 PM	#37
Bender711 Senior Member Join Date: September 20, 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 340	lets see are there less then 18 BG's if so then not a chance if there is more, im kill 17 of them and saving one for me. or i could just pull a chck norris and round house kick them to the face1!! __________________ From a Mod "Seeing as how "butt Smurf" is not profanity in the usual sense and humorously creative, I'll leave this up for now"