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November 14, 2008, 04:23 PM | #26 | |||
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I'm in Blacksburg Virginia, and have a carry permit.
Legally I could carry on any college campus in Virginia except: Virginia Commonwealth University. (KLRANGL beat me to this point) Here are the Virginia laws that could apply to campuses. Quote:
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So, in virginia, since I'm not a student I could carry on campus and all the school could do is ask me to leave. Do I do so? After the shooting at Tech even though I'm well within the law I don't even consider it. It's just not worth the hassle of trying to explain it to the Campus Police if it's noticed when I only go into tech 3-4 times a year. I'm on the campus of Radford University more often (my girlfriend goes there, and I practice with their Fencing Team) but again, I'm not willing to fight the administration over it. We've had a 3 month long fight with them about us having the fencing gear on campus, and those aren't even a real weapons. Members of their ROTC were punished for having Nerf Guns in their dorms last month too. Anyway, I normally leave my pistol locked in the car if I have to go onto a campus for something.
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The carry on campus issue is generating a lot of noise where I work right now.
Shooting Revives Concealed Carry Controversy November 13, 2008 • By Katie Thisdell, The Breeze I'll post the article but you folks should go to the site and see the comments (one guy went totally nutzo) Quote:
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have you looked into things like spray? |
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November 15, 2008, 12:41 AM | #31 |
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Has anyone noticed that the gun laws are cyclical? They want to reduce gun violence in schools and public places like the post office so they take away all the guns from the 'good guys' leaving guns only in the hands of the 'bad guys'. And then in these 'gun free zones' we get horrific massacres and everyone wonders why. It makes sense that the bad guys are going to go where there are no guns because they have total control over the situation. Only after these terrible events happen will they bring the guns back into these gun free zones and give them back to the 'good guys'. I think they need to either give us concealed carry rights EVERYWHERE or have designated people in these gun free zones that carry and are trained to protect, perhaps a certain number of volunteer students are selected to be armed and trained, sort of like Air Marshals on planes. Bottom line: you need guns to protect gun free zones!
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November 15, 2008, 07:34 AM | #32 | |
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http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story...0-947534a6de3c Excerpts: The other statistic that emerged from a study of active killers is that they almost exclusively seek out "gun free" zones for their attacks. In most states, concealed handguns are prohibited at schools and on college campuses even for those with permits. Many malls and workplaces also place signs at their entrances prohibiting firearms on the premises. Now tacticians believe the signs themselves may be an invitation to the active killers. |
November 16, 2008, 11:52 PM | #34 |
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In the university I attended, like most universities, there were stupid stipulations to prevent protecting oneself on campus. In addition to the advice already given, I suggest getting involved on an internal level. I lobbied for students in for many beneficial issues and was voted in on the student government board. I was a voting member and helped to vote in a new campus "law" that allowed concealed carry if the individual had his/her CCL. Like most campuses, mine was run by left wing/gun hating students and faculty, but that was one of the highlights of my Student Govt. career.
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November 17, 2008, 01:46 PM | #35 |
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Strictly forbidden at my school. i dont carry yet, but fully intend on it when i buy a pistol. My girlfriend is doing a website on this for a project, i cant wait to hear about her class's reaction.
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November 17, 2008, 01:57 PM | #36 |
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You go to Chico State Pollution?
Anyways, the more and more I read on this and think about this, the less sense current laws/policies make to me. |
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November 19, 2008, 12:36 AM | #41 |
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Smoke Screen, which university?
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November 25, 2008, 09:10 AM | #42 |
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I recommend taking Krav Maga and learning how to use Pepper Spray properly. Krav Maga will teach some great defensive/offensive moves against knife attackers too.
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December 3, 2008, 12:27 PM | #43 |
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at the college i attend..they banned the proposal for ccw students to carry...simply because they feel that with more armed students...even though they pass background checks and are law abiding citizens..that the campus will be too dangerous...therefore on class days i do not bring my firearm..
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December 3, 2008, 12:56 PM | #44 |
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It gets even more complicated (or less, actually) when the university is on a federal installation. I attended graduate school at a medical school affiliated with a Veterans Admin. hospital. Not only were firearms not permitted by the school (state) the feds also "outlawed" firearms when you entered the grounds. That included concealed carry, open carry, and even transport of firearms. In essence, no guns ever.
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Lets be a little realistic here, there should be some significant training requirements, and not just the standard CCW training. We are not the norm for college students. I work in a college town, and wouldn't trust 3/4 of the students with a rubber band gun. Being able to wear a handgun, and being able to effectively use a handgun are completely different. Although I believe it's should be every law abiding citizens right to carry, I don't believe that everyone should carry. I do believe that students and teachers armed and trained would deter a significant amount of these school shooting. I'll even go one better, a well armed and trained society in general will go a long way in reducing violent crime. (Just an opinion) My problem is not with a student carrying, but with the knowledge that most would not seek adequate training, and fewer still will continue to keep proficient. I know this argument could be made in general regarding most firearm carriers, even police officers. Regarding the post that firearms should be allowed to be stored on campus in the students vehicles, I strongly disagree. It would not take long before most of these guns were stolen and used by criminals. Easier than robbing a pawn shop. I would rather have the students carry on thier person. |
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So worrying about all the people who would be irresponsible is sorta a moot point. Not to mention the only people who would legally be able to carry anyway are seniors, old juniors, and older people returning to college..
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If its concealed, who knows you have it?
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December 5, 2008, 06:36 PM | #49 |
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There is a student carry lobbyist sort of group at my college, but we still dont have a CCW on campus policy yet. When I turn 21 I'm getting involved.
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December 5, 2008, 07:45 PM | #50 |
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If you plan on carrying anyway, you may not want to join the lobby
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