Just bought Sig P226 - need info...

MostToysWins · November 6, 2005, 01:39 AM

Which classes can I shoot it in (IPDA/USPSA)?

I'm still confused about the different classes.

Thanks!

Ken O · November 6, 2005, 08:54 AM

For IDPA it would be SSP (Stock Service Pistol), but you could shoot it in ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) or CDP (Custom Defensive Pistol).
At the club I shoot at, you are encouraged to shoot more than one class, they charge an extra $5 to shoot a second gun. So if you shoot in your SSP class, you could shoot again in say the ESP using the same gun. This is good especially if you travel a long ways to shoot, you get twice the shooting in.
For USPSA (IPSC), I believe you could shoot in the Prodution division. Normally you would just shoot one pistol and class as the set up is usually a lot more complex.
Go to the respective websites and the rules are posted, I think the USPSA website has an appendix that is brand specific for the class.
Also, for IDPA the holsters are a lot more restictive, and if shooting a revolver class you are limited to a 4" barrel. In IPSC just about anything goes.
Hope this helps, Ken

Jim Watson · November 6, 2005, 09:26 AM

BEEEP! Wrong answer, Ken.
You may not shoot a pistol of caliber other than .45 ACP in IDPA CDP.

Most,

He was pretty close otherwise. Your P226 will enter in Stock Service Pistol (SSP) for IDPA and in Production for USPSA(IPSC). In either case you are limited to ten in the magazine plus one in the chamber to start, a holdover from the Klinton Ban.

You CAN shoot it in some other Divisons of either outfit, but it would put you up against more sophisticated guns where you would not be competitive. Not that you should expect to win, just that shooting against people with similar guns will help you to know where you stand and what you need to work on.

Don't worry about definitions. I know people who shoot regularly who cannot tell you what Division their gun fits or remember the difference between Tactical Priority and Tactical Sequence; or Comstock vs Virgina count. Just show up and follow directions.

Ken O · November 6, 2005, 06:48 PM

Your right Jim, forgot about the caliber exception, page 23 says: Pistol approved for SSP may also be used in ESP and CDP, but must meet the caliber requirement.

MostToysWins · November 6, 2005, 07:42 PM

Jim,

I think I will take your advice and when I go to my first competition this month I will just "show up and follow directions".

I'm sure they will tell me everything I want to know!

Thanks for the responses!

Jeff22 · November 7, 2005, 12:28 AM

I had a Sig 226 in 9mm as my duty sidearm from December of '89 until November of '04, when we switched to the 226R-DAK in .40 cal. I almost always used the 226 in local IPSC and IDPA matches. (I shot the .40 in an IPSC match on Sunday afternoon.)

The above posts are correct. It would be "production" in IDPA and "stock service pistol" in IPSC. Get a holster that fits the rules for both disciplines and a bunch of spare magazines and you should be all set.

There are more similarities than differences in the two different organizations and lots of shooters shoot both. Matches like that may not be tactically correct but are a good way to learn dynamic gunhandling and have a good time doing it.

mailmanx · November 8, 2005, 02:19 PM

I too just bought a Sig 226 9mm and want to get into USPSA/IDPA... Can anyone give me some points on just what holster types are legal for both? I am leaning more toward USPSA, but want to option of IDPA as well. I have been looking at CR-Speed Rigs and wondered what else is out there of similar design, and what type of holster is legal for IDPA... since I guess the CR-speed is not...

Also looking for dealers/vendors in MA area for holster try out/purchase.

Thanks

Jon

Jim Watson · November 8, 2005, 03:50 PM

An IDPA holster must be strong side straight draw belt, paddle or IWB type. No drop or offset (except for a woman.) No clamps, clips, rails, pegs, or magnets, the gun must go IN the holster, with coverage at least to within 1/4inch of the front of the ejection port.
You could take any IDPA holster to a USPSA shoot but not vice versa.

I use RTP, seen at
www.pistolpacking.com
but there are others in kydex and leather.

OWad · November 11, 2005, 12:14 PM

I use a $20 fobus paddle for both....Life is good when the extra $$$ goes for bullets

November 6, 2005, 01:39 AM	#1
MostToysWins Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2005 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 274	Just bought Sig P226 - need info... Which classes can I shoot it in (IPDA/USPSA)? I'm still confused about the different classes. Thanks! __________________ Sig P226 9mm : CZ 75B Compact : Glock G26 : CZ 2075 RAMI 9mm : S&W Model 60 .38 : Ruger GP-100 6" : Beretta .22 Minx

November 6, 2005, 07:42 PM	#5
MostToysWins Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2005 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 274	Jim, I think I will take your advice and when I go to my first competition this month I will just "show up and follow directions". I'm sure they will tell me everything I want to know! Thanks for the responses! __________________ Sig P226 9mm : CZ 75B Compact : Glock G26 : CZ 2075 RAMI 9mm : S&W Model 60 .38 : Ruger GP-100 6" : Beretta .22 Minx

November 7, 2005, 12:28 AM	#6
Jeff22 Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2004 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 715	Sig 226 in competition I had a Sig 226 in 9mm as my duty sidearm from December of '89 until November of '04, when we switched to the 226R-DAK in .40 cal. I almost always used the 226 in local IPSC and IDPA matches. (I shot the .40 in an IPSC match on Sunday afternoon.) The above posts are correct. It would be "production" in IDPA and "stock service pistol" in IPSC. Get a holster that fits the rules for both disciplines and a bunch of spare magazines and you should be all set. There are more similarities than differences in the two different organizations and lots of shooters shoot both. Matches like that may not be tactically correct but are a good way to learn dynamic gunhandling and have a good time doing it. __________________ You can only learn from experience if you pay attention!

November 6, 2005, 08:54 AM	#2
Ken O Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Half way between Grayling and Cadillac, Michigan Posts: 353	For IDPA it would be SSP (Stock Service Pistol), but you could shoot it in ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) or CDP (Custom Defensive Pistol). At the club I shoot at, you are encouraged to shoot more than one class, they charge an extra $5 to shoot a second gun. So if you shoot in your SSP class, you could shoot again in say the ESP using the same gun. This is good especially if you travel a long ways to shoot, you get twice the shooting in. For USPSA (IPSC), I believe you could shoot in the Prodution division. Normally you would just shoot one pistol and class as the set up is usually a lot more complex. Go to the respective websites and the rules are posted, I think the USPSA website has an appendix that is brand specific for the class. Also, for IDPA the holsters are a lot more restictive, and if shooting a revolver class you are limited to a 4" barrel. In IPSC just about anything goes. Hope this helps, Ken

November 6, 2005, 09:26 AM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	BEEEP! Wrong answer, Ken. You may not shoot a pistol of caliber other than .45 ACP in IDPA CDP. Most, He was pretty close otherwise. Your P226 will enter in Stock Service Pistol (SSP) for IDPA and in Production for USPSA(IPSC). In either case you are limited to ten in the magazine plus one in the chamber to start, a holdover from the Klinton Ban. You CAN shoot it in some other Divisons of either outfit, but it would put you up against more sophisticated guns where you would not be competitive. Not that you should expect to win, just that shooting against people with similar guns will help you to know where you stand and what you need to work on. Don't worry about definitions. I know people who shoot regularly who cannot tell you what Division their gun fits or remember the difference between Tactical Priority and Tactical Sequence; or Comstock vs Virgina count. Just show up and follow directions.

November 6, 2005, 06:48 PM	#4
Ken O Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Half way between Grayling and Cadillac, Michigan Posts: 353	Your right Jim, forgot about the caliber exception, page 23 says: Pistol approved for SSP may also be used in ESP and CDP, but must meet the caliber requirement.

November 8, 2005, 02:19 PM	#7
mailmanx Junior Member Join Date: November 7, 2005 Posts: 3	I too just bought a Sig 226 9mm and want to get into USPSA/IDPA... Can anyone give me some points on just what holster types are legal for both? I am leaning more toward USPSA, but want to option of IDPA as well. I have been looking at CR-Speed Rigs and wondered what else is out there of similar design, and what type of holster is legal for IDPA... since I guess the CR-speed is not... Also looking for dealers/vendors in MA area for holster try out/purchase. Thanks Jon

November 8, 2005, 03:50 PM	#8
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	An IDPA holster must be strong side straight draw belt, paddle or IWB type. No drop or offset (except for a woman.) No clamps, clips, rails, pegs, or magnets, the gun must go IN the holster, with coverage at least to within 1/4inch of the front of the ejection port. You could take any IDPA holster to a USPSA shoot but not vice versa. I use RTP, seen at www.pistolpacking.com but there are others in kydex and leather.

November 11, 2005, 12:14 PM	#9
OWad Member Join Date: August 1, 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 33	I use a $20 fobus paddle for both....Life is good when the extra $$$ goes for bullets