Guns used in self defense stories?

SauceNM · July 4, 2016, 08:00 PM

Is there a collection point for these stories? I know they are less likely to get news coverage but there must be somewhere to find more stories of weapons used in self defense.
Occasionally Freerepublic.com runs some stories but there must be more somewhere.

turtlehead · July 4, 2016, 08:28 PM

https://www.americanrifleman.org/the-armed-citizen

turtlehead · July 4, 2016, 08:37 PM

You can buy an NRA membership and get a free subscription to the American Rifleman magazine.

flyer898 · July 6, 2016, 11:37 PM

The Firing Line should consider capturing this kind of story in a sticky thread - it would be useful to have verifiable incidences of an armed citizen stopping a deadly force crime available to refute the argument that we are not a deterrent or a counterweight to crime.

Evan Thomas · July 7, 2016, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyer898

The Firing Line should consider capturing this kind of story in a sticky thread - it would be useful to have verifiable incidences of an armed citizen stopping a deadly force crime available to refute the argument that we are not a deterrent or a counterweight to crime.

Unfortunately, such stories don't refute either. Anecdotal data are notoriously flawed, and as a matter of logic, stories in which a gun was used (whether fired or not fired) to stop a crime have no relationship to deterrence.

Deter:
to prevent or discourage someone from doing something:
High prices are deterring a lot of young couples from buying houses.
(http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/d.../english/deter)

g.willikers · July 7, 2016, 09:51 AM

If memory serves, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) has or used to have a data base of self defense stories.
They have a web site and facebook account.

Glenn E. Meyer · July 7, 2016, 10:09 AM

If one wants data and not just shoot 'em stories of DGUs. The starting point is Point Blank by Gary Kleck. It is an award winning criminology book. Kind of dated now but makes the point.

Tom Givens at rangemaster.com has a collection of incidents from his students for more of a 'story' type.

Armed_Chicagoan · July 8, 2016, 06:04 PM

The most current and best one I know of is the Defensive Gun Use subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/dgu/

kilimanjaro · July 8, 2016, 06:52 PM

No one can ever quantify the number of crimes that have been deterred, they didn't occur, and/or someone else was selected as the victim.

The use of firearms to prevent the completion of a crime has been fairly well documented, though. Kleck and Lott are the best data sources.

July 4, 2016, 08:00 PM	#1
SauceNM Junior Member Join Date: April 30, 2016 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 9	Guns used in self defense stories? Is there a collection point for these stories? I know they are less likely to get news coverage but there must be somewhere to find more stories of weapons used in self defense. Occasionally Freerepublic.com runs some stories but there must be more somewhere.

July 7, 2016, 09:51 AM	#6
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	If memory serves, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) has or used to have a data base of self defense stories. They have a web site and facebook account. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

July 7, 2016, 10:09 AM	#7
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	If one wants data and not just shoot 'em stories of DGUs. The starting point is Point Blank by Gary Kleck. It is an award winning criminology book. Kind of dated now but makes the point. Tom Givens at rangemaster.com has a collection of incidents from his students for more of a 'story' type. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

July 4, 2016, 08:28 PM	#2
turtlehead Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2015 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,203	https://www.americanrifleman.org/the-armed-citizen

July 4, 2016, 08:37 PM	#3
turtlehead Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2015 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,203	You can buy an NRA membership and get a free subscription to the American Rifleman magazine.

July 6, 2016, 11:37 PM	#4
flyer898 Member Join Date: May 15, 2013 Posts: 35	The Firing Line should consider capturing this kind of story in a sticky thread - it would be useful to have verifiable incidences of an armed citizen stopping a deadly force crime available to refute the argument that we are not a deterrent or a counterweight to crime.

July 8, 2016, 06:04 PM	#8
Armed_Chicagoan Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2013 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 776	The most current and best one I know of is the Defensive Gun Use subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/dgu/

July 8, 2016, 06:52 PM	#9
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	No one can ever quantify the number of crimes that have been deterred, they didn't occur, and/or someone else was selected as the victim. The use of firearms to prevent the completion of a crime has been fairly well documented, though. Kleck and Lott are the best data sources.