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March 13, 2013, 09:08 AM | #26 | |
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March 13, 2013, 09:27 AM | #27 |
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Use a gun to shoot a guy who is running away with a knife?
Uhh.... You're gonna go to jail with most juries sitting in judgement on that at your trial. As you should. Willie . |
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But just because he has a knife doesn't mean you can waste him. He's no longer an immediate threat to you. |
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March 13, 2013, 11:34 AM | #29 |
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Having read the posts on the linked website, we should also realize he wasn't actually running away- at least according to the thrid or fourthhand accounts of a supposed juror in the trial. In other words, I have no reason to accept all that was said as fact, but even less reason to not accept those as the facts of the case.
Turning is not running. A knife inside of 21 feet is a significant threat. Someone so off their rocker they take their shirt off in the rain, phsyically assault someone, leave, and return with a knife-has committed at least a couple felonies and is so off their rocker, I would suspect them of being a danger to anyone they passed, even if they did attempt to leave the scene. |
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Generally speaking, you simply have to believe that your life or the life of another is still endangered and that your action is necessary for self defense.
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March 13, 2013, 11:56 AM | #32 |
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So if Law Enforcement were standing there instead of your or I, and been involved in exactly the same way, assaulted, threatened by a knife weilding assailant, and this assailant were leaving the scene they would not be justified in shooting the assailant?
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Just poking around, I find Michigan apparently by statute allows citizens arrests, and provides guidelines for when deadly force may be used during those arrests. In Washington we have this one competing with this one that could offer up much the same thing. |
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According to "the full story" on the linked page, the shooter made a verbal comment- watch where you're going- and immediately proceeded on his way, while the shootee removed his shirt and chased down the shooter to continue the confrontation beyond an angry verbal exchange. After a 2-20 minute phsycial altercation, the shootee left screaming verbal threats. The shooter then tried to continue to leave the area, when he was again confronted by the shootee, who jabbed at him with a closed folding knife.
That's an awful lot of the shooter trying to leave to think the instigation and thus blame was a simple comment of Watch where you're going. |
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