Thoughts...PSAK 47 MOE vs VZ 58

Nathan · November 18, 2016, 08:26 PM

Would like one or the other, I think. What are your thoughts and how to choose? Looking for good ergos, best accuracy, and a way to get into 7.62x39!

Help!

marine6680 · November 18, 2016, 09:50 PM

Depends on the Vz58 you plan on getting...

The Czechpoint ones are very good, the century ones are decent, but the barrel is plain steel, not chrome lined or nitride treated.

Nathan · November 19, 2016, 07:39 AM

It is probably not much of an issue as VZ 58's are generally unavailable.

marine6680 · November 19, 2016, 12:15 PM

If I had to choose between a full spec Vz 58 and a good Ak, I would choose the VZ...

A bit lighter and has a bolt hold open.

The AK has an advantage in having cheaper more readily available magazines and parts.

dakota.potts · November 19, 2016, 02:36 PM

I much prefer the handling of my Vz58 to an AK. They were once priced very reasonably but are quickly going up in price - might be good to get one while they're available

Ignition Override · November 22, 2016, 12:56 AM

The "Yugo" AK mags advertise the bho feature.

Keep in mind that mags are Not interchangeable between AK clones and VZ-58s.
Are spare parts for 58s available at reasonable prices? Rugged guns might not require any spare part, but it's nice to know whether or not there are options.

Always have a Plan B.

HistoryJunky · November 22, 2016, 02:24 PM

If you have an urge to customize the rifle and like having a wide variety of aftermarket options, get the AK.

Model12Win · November 22, 2016, 02:45 PM

Love the VZ-58 but they're like akin to rooster's teeth.

Hard to find. Parts are an issue.

dakota.potts · November 22, 2016, 06:28 PM

Parts kits for the Vz58 seem to be much more common than completed guns, so parts are available (for now)

barnbwt · November 23, 2016, 12:17 AM

Choose VZ58; is eleven more than AK47

"Parts kits for the Vz58 seem to be much more common than completed guns, so parts are available (for now)"
That's because people that own all the VZ's out there aren't selling them...for some reason

TCB

November 18, 2016, 08:26 PM	#1
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	Thoughts...PSAK 47 MOE vs VZ 58 Would like one or the other, I think. What are your thoughts and how to choose? Looking for good ergos, best accuracy, and a way to get into 7.62x39! Help!

November 19, 2016, 02:36 PM	#5
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	I much prefer the handling of my Vz58 to an AK. They were once priced very reasonably but are quickly going up in price - might be good to get one while they're available __________________ Certified Gunsmith (On Hiatus) Certified Armorer - H&K and Glock Among Others You can find my writings at my website, pottsprecision.com.

November 22, 2016, 12:56 AM	#6
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,887	The "Yugo" AK mags advertise the bho feature. Keep in mind that mags are Not interchangeable between AK clones and VZ-58s. Are spare parts for 58s available at reasonable prices? Rugged guns might not require any spare part, but it's nice to know whether or not there are options. Always have a Plan B. Last edited by Ignition Override; November 22, 2016 at 07:59 PM.

November 22, 2016, 06:28 PM	#9
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	Parts kits for the Vz58 seem to be much more common than completed guns, so parts are available (for now) __________________ Certified Gunsmith (On Hiatus) Certified Armorer - H&K and Glock Among Others You can find my writings at my website, pottsprecision.com.

November 23, 2016, 12:17 AM	#10
barnbwt Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2012 Posts: 1,085	Choose VZ58; is eleven more than AK47 "Parts kits for the Vz58 seem to be much more common than completed guns, so parts are available (for now)" That's because people that own all the VZ's out there aren't selling them...for some reason TCB __________________ "I don't believe that the men of the distant past were any wiser than we are today. But it does seem that their science and technology were able to accomplish much grander things." -- Alex Rosewater

November 18, 2016, 09:50 PM	#2
marine6680 Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2012 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 4,594	Depends on the Vz58 you plan on getting... The Czechpoint ones are very good, the century ones are decent, but the barrel is plain steel, not chrome lined or nitride treated.

November 19, 2016, 07:39 AM	#3
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	It is probably not much of an issue as VZ 58's are generally unavailable.

November 19, 2016, 12:15 PM	#4
marine6680 Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2012 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 4,594	If I had to choose between a full spec Vz 58 and a good Ak, I would choose the VZ... A bit lighter and has a bolt hold open. The AK has an advantage in having cheaper more readily available magazines and parts.

November 22, 2016, 02:24 PM	#7
HistoryJunky Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2010 Location: Freeport, IL Posts: 833	If you have an urge to customize the rifle and like having a wide variety of aftermarket options, get the AK.

November 22, 2016, 02:45 PM	#8
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Love the VZ-58 but they're like akin to rooster's teeth. Hard to find. Parts are an issue.