Hakim Trigger Problem

B. Lahey · July 19, 2009, 04:24 PM

I picked up a Hakim for a silly low price as a curiosity, and it has something wrong with its trigger.

With the bolt forward and the safety on fire, when you pull the trigger nothing happens. It's just a squishy trigger pull all the way back and the hammer doesn't drop.

I know spare parts are pretty much nonexistant, so is this something that can be fixed?

If so, who could do it for a reasonable price?

SDC · July 19, 2009, 04:51 PM

It sounds like the disconnector isn't allowing the trigger-bar to reset to engage the sear, which may just be a case of a missing spring; my first step would be a thorough cleaning, to see if everything moves the way it should. These rifles are essentially direct copies of the Swedish Llungman, which were themselves based on the Russian Tokarev.

DnPRK · July 19, 2009, 05:09 PM

Gun Parts Corp listing of Hakim parts

B. Lahey · July 19, 2009, 07:23 PM

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Gun Parts Corp listing of Hakim parts

Nice!

It's always good when I find out unfortunate things I "know" are totally wrong.

There's hope to make it a shooter yet.

Anyone know where to find detailed instructions for taking one apart?

SDC · July 19, 2009, 08:38 PM

There's an online one at http://shooting.forsandiego.com/hakim/

Snow Dog · July 19, 2009, 10:31 PM

I had a Hakim with a similar problem. Try tightening the trigger guard screws a bit - the whole trigger mechanism is a unit and if the screws become loose then the unit can drop down a bit and get out of alignment with the action.

HeroHog · July 19, 2009, 11:44 PM

There are 3 or 4 aluminum(?) tubes that space the trigger the proper distance from the receiver and these can wear or be missing causing the distance between the 2 to decrease to widths will make the trigger function improperly. On one I had, I simply loosened the screws and instead of cranking down on them, I just lightly snugged them... problem solved! I made my own tubes out of steel and through careful measuring and grinding, I found the right height. The bad news is once you have done that, the action will now be a little loose in the stock and need bedding.

B. Lahey · July 20, 2009, 12:27 AM

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Try tightening the trigger guard screws

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I simply loosened the screws

Tried both ways. No dice.

But there are little loops of wire where the little washer deals apparently should be on the screws, so a proper fit of the trigger group could well be the problem.

Also, the safety won't slide over far enough to field-strip it, it's stuck in "fire", so my attempt at the most basic disassembly was foiled at the outset. Anyone know a way around this?

I'm starting to see why I got such a screaming deal on this rifle.

But it's ok, I knew it was a fixerupper when I bought it, and on the bright side, the barrel is actually in better shape than I first though. A zillion patches and about a pint of Hoppe's has revealed that it has rifling after all.

Wildalaska · July 20, 2009, 12:38 AM

Dude post some photos

WildsowecandiagnoseAlaska TM

B. Lahey · July 20, 2009, 12:54 AM

No camera available at the moment.

Besides, I can't even get it stripped to take a look at diagnosable areas.

The little loops of wire are located directly under the head of the screws in a groove, which is where the spacers should be if I am understanding the guide linked above.

The safety will only move about .25" to the right and then bounce back.

HeroHog · July 20, 2009, 11:59 AM

You have to pop them out to adjust the screws. Use needle nose pliers to remove them. They are there to lock the screws in place and prevent them from backing out. Many Hakims have long lost them.

Snow Dog · July 20, 2009, 12:46 PM

There's not much information about these rifles. I did find this: http://www.surplusrifle.com/hakim/index.asp I expect you have found it as well. You can also look for information about the Swedish Ljungman rifles - the Hakim is very much the same except for caliber and the adjustable gas system. Go to the above link and check the field stripping procedures. Several things can happen when cocking the rifle depending on where the safety is and if there is a magazine in place or not. Pushing forward on the dust cover then pulling it back to cock the rifle goes against most peoples mindset of operating a semi-auto rifle. Once you get familiar with the operation of the rifle you'll be fine but they are somewhat complex and it is not intuitive.

jb573 · July 29, 2009, 06:16 PM

shoot me an email. I stock most parts for the Hakim and Rasheed and can give you a few pointers.. jb

[email protected]

July 19, 2009, 04:24 PM	#1
B. Lahey Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,857	Hakim Trigger Problem I picked up a Hakim for a silly low price as a curiosity, and it has something wrong with its trigger. With the bolt forward and the safety on fire, when you pull the trigger nothing happens. It's just a squishy trigger pull all the way back and the hammer doesn't drop. I know spare parts are pretty much nonexistant, so is this something that can be fixed? If so, who could do it for a reasonable price? __________________ "A human being is primarily a bag for putting food into; the other functions and faculties may be more godlike, but in point of time they come afterwards." -George Orwell

July 19, 2009, 04:51 PM	#2
SDC Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2001 Location: People's Republic of Kanada Posts: 1,652	It sounds like the disconnector isn't allowing the trigger-bar to reset to engage the sear, which may just be a case of a missing spring; my first step would be a thorough cleaning, to see if everything moves the way it should. These rifles are essentially direct copies of the Swedish Llungman, which were themselves based on the Russian Tokarev. __________________ Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.

July 19, 2009, 08:38 PM	#5
SDC Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2001 Location: People's Republic of Kanada Posts: 1,652	There's an online one at http://shooting.forsandiego.com/hakim/ __________________ Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.

July 19, 2009, 11:44 PM	#7
HeroHog Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2008 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 486	There are 3 or 4 aluminum(?) tubes that space the trigger the proper distance from the receiver and these can wear or be missing causing the distance between the 2 to decrease to widths will make the trigger function improperly. On one I had, I simply loosened the screws and instead of cranking down on them, I just lightly snugged them... problem solved! I made my own tubes out of steel and through careful measuring and grinding, I found the right height. The bad news is once you have done that, the action will now be a little loose in the stock and need bedding. __________________ Speedy AKA: Hero Hog, Dr. Speed, "That fat, old, balding, Grey-bearded gimpy guy" *I don't have NEAR enough ammo on hand. `Nuff said.*

July 20, 2009, 12:54 AM	#10
B. Lahey Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,857	No camera available at the moment. Besides, I can't even get it stripped to take a look at diagnosable areas. The little loops of wire are located directly under the head of the screws in a groove, which is where the spacers should be if I am understanding the guide linked above. The safety will only move about .25" to the right and then bounce back. __________________ "A human being is primarily a bag for putting food into; the other functions and faculties may be more godlike, but in point of time they come afterwards." -George Orwell

July 19, 2009, 05:09 PM	#3
DnPRK Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2001 Location: LC, Ca Posts: 1,917	Gun Parts Corp listing of Hakim parts

July 19, 2009, 10:31 PM	#6
Snow Dog Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2005 Location: Too close to Toronto! Posts: 106	I had a Hakim with a similar problem. Try tightening the trigger guard screws a bit - the whole trigger mechanism is a unit and if the screws become loose then the unit can drop down a bit and get out of alignment with the action.

July 20, 2009, 12:38 AM	#9
Wildalaska Junior member Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 14,172	Dude post some photos WildsowecandiagnoseAlaska TM

July 20, 2009, 11:59 AM	#11
HeroHog Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2008 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 486	You have to pop them out to adjust the screws. Use needle nose pliers to remove them. They are there to lock the screws in place and prevent them from backing out. Many Hakims have long lost them. __________________ Speedy AKA: Hero Hog, Dr. Speed, "That fat, old, balding, Grey-bearded gimpy guy" *I don't have NEAR enough ammo on hand. `Nuff said.*

July 20, 2009, 12:46 PM	#12
Snow Dog Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2005 Location: Too close to Toronto! Posts: 106	There's not much information about these rifles. I did find this: http://www.surplusrifle.com/hakim/index.asp I expect you have found it as well. You can also look for information about the Swedish Ljungman rifles - the Hakim is very much the same except for caliber and the adjustable gas system. Go to the above link and check the field stripping procedures. Several things can happen when cocking the rifle depending on where the safety is and if there is a magazine in place or not. Pushing forward on the dust cover then pulling it back to cock the rifle goes against most peoples mindset of operating a semi-auto rifle. Once you get familiar with the operation of the rifle you'll be fine but they are somewhat complex and it is not intuitive.

July 29, 2009, 06:16 PM	#13
jb573 Junior Member Join Date: July 29, 2009 Posts: 1	hakim troubles shoot me an email. I stock most parts for the Hakim and Rasheed and can give you a few pointers.. jb [email protected]