Wasting money on shotshell holders - Page 2

Doug S · May 20, 2013, 11:27 PM

Thanks for the link.

johnwilliamson062 · May 21, 2013, 09:23 PM

I think, as a community, we have a responsibility when threads like this come up. To dump all those failed accessories on whoever asked the questions.

Luckily for me, I gave away my last elastic butt-stock shell holder a few months ago.

Destructo6 · May 21, 2013, 09:53 PM

So, with that card setup, you reload the card onto the shotgun, then reload the shotgun from the card?

Forgive me , but it seems that an extra step is added.

Why not reload the shotgun's magazine directly from a device mounted on your belt or similar?

breakingcontact · May 22, 2013, 01:12 PM

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Why not reload the shotgun's magazine directly from a device mounted on your belt or similar?

You can do that with these cards too. Stick them on a belt, stick them on a vest, stick them on the side of the receiver.

Don't have one, but seem pretty good.

Creek Henry · May 22, 2013, 11:08 PM

A rig like this might work. I do use a nylon pouch with molly clips on my hunting vest sometimes for extra ammo if I am going far afield. That way I can ditch my laden vest and most of the stuff that's weighing me down and just carry that and my gun for short jaunts away from my blind. But, that's how I hunt, not everyone does that.

johnwilliamson062 · May 23, 2013, 07:06 AM

Like BC said, you can do it however you like. You can have extra tabs in the drawer. MOst practice relading from one source primarily, so they are faster with that. Usually the on gun ammo. If you know it is empty and have the chance to switch out tabs do it. If not, load from wherever you put stuck the tabs to begin with.

Like I said, I don't use it or own it. I know that almost all the other systems either don't work well at all or are much more expensive. None are as flexible I know that some people who have a lot of time with a defensive shotgun use this system and like it.

The only downfall I can see is if you make your own and go cheap on the velcro or it starts to wear out and you don't replace it.

breakingcontact · May 23, 2013, 04:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYhuK...e_gdata_player

Sphawley · May 30, 2013, 09:03 PM

Practice practice practice...Only costs ammo and range time!

ZVP · June 7, 2013, 07:39 AM

Why unbalance the shotgun and make it hard to shoulder
JMH

BPSdave

WV_gunner · June 8, 2013, 07:54 AM

I have an elastic shell holder on every gun I hunt with. Mainly because I like to keep the gun fully loaded and I can't stand to have my pockets full of stuff. My Mossberg 500 does have a plastic shell holder on the receiver. I like it much better than generic elastic shell holders. I also have a shell holder that velcros on my Goosegun.

MarkCO · June 11, 2013, 04:39 PM

I wasted a lot of money on them too up until a few years ago. Then I decided to just make my own...it has worked out pretty well so far.

Travis from MGM trying them out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-RNLpKeToI

johnwilliamson062 · June 12, 2013, 07:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...dhHRrU1Y8&NR=1

It doesn't look like retention of the shells is very good as when he pulls on them the belt doesn't move. Looks like any sort of tumble and the shells will fall out.
What if you want to load just one?

If you post a video of you throwing a couple across the room without any falling out and the same after someone rolls down a hill with them, I will be a believer. Until then, those look great... for three gun or other competition. I won't take them hunting or set them up for home defense though.

MarkCO · June 12, 2013, 10:30 PM

John, there are lots of videos of guys using them in 3Gun, which is much more violent than hunting. We flop down prone on them and they stay tight. Better than caddies and in most cases velcro too. Heck, we have some SWAT entry guys using them, and group of guys who went to Argentina to bird hunt with them who had notihng but praise, but yeah, they probably are not good enough for you.

If you want to load just one, only grab one...pretty simple.

Dragline45 · June 13, 2013, 01:54 PM

I have a buttstock shell holder that I keep 5 slugs in, the gun I keep loaded with buckshot. I have researched the bandoliers and came to the same conclusion you did. If I wanted to carry more shells I would get a vest with molle loops and get some pouches to attach.

dayman · June 14, 2013, 07:31 AM

Has anyone tried one of the holders that mounts onto the receiver?
I got one of those with the idea that I could keep shot in the tube, and slugs in the carrier so if the "fox in the hen house" turns out to be a "bear in the garbage" I could adapt.

I haven't put everything together yet, but it seems like it will be out of the way.

Mrgunsngear · June 14, 2013, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Has anyone tried one of the holders that mounts onto the receiver?
I got one of those with the idea that I could keep shot in the tube, and slugs in the carrier so if the "fox in the hen house" turns out to be a "bear in the garbage" I could adapt.

Doug Presson Jr Shotgun Shell Carrier HD Video Review Link

I like the velcro carriers as well but for bolt on carriers the Doug Presson Custom shop carrier is the nicest I've used to date. Similar construction to the Mesa but half the price.

Boomer58cal · June 15, 2013, 05:33 PM

I have 5rd holder on my folding stock and a 6rder on the side of my mossy 500. I also have a 25rd belt. That's more than you'll ever need. Short of an all out zombie attack that is

WV_gunner · June 15, 2013, 07:39 PM

I've got a tac star side saddle on my Mossberg 500. I like it because its not some generic elastic shell holder. I wish they made them for all shotguns. It was simple to install. Mine has a wood stock and forearm so I needed to trim the forearm. Not a big deal. I read alot of reviews trying to a good side saddle. Seems like not fitting wood forearms was the only complaint. Simplest way to cut it down is remove the slide assembly and remove the forearm from it. I used a door striker plate to get the nut off. Then use a chop saw to trim it up. I think I had to take around 3/8ths off.

May 20, 2013, 11:27 PM	#26
Doug S Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2000 Posts: 745	Thanks for the link. __________________ "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." Col. Jeff Cooper, from The Art of the Rifle

May 21, 2013, 09:53 PM	#28
Destructo6 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 1999 Location: Nogales, AZ USA Posts: 4,000	So, with that card setup, you reload the card onto the shotgun, then reload the shotgun from the card? Forgive me , but it seems that an extra step is added. Why not reload the shotgun's magazine directly from a device mounted on your belt or similar? __________________ God gave you a soul. Your parents, a body. Your country, a rifle. Keep all of them clean.

May 23, 2013, 04:43 PM	#32
breakingcontact Junior member Join Date: October 25, 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 736	Re: Wasting money on shotshell holders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYhuK...e_gdata_player

May 30, 2013, 09:03 PM	#33
Sphawley Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 272	Practice practice practice...Only costs ammo and range time! __________________ If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words, cars make people drive drunk, and spoons made Rosie O' Donnell fat!

June 11, 2013, 04:39 PM	#36
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,307	I wasted a lot of money on them too up until a few years ago. Then I decided to just make my own...it has worked out pretty well so far. Travis from MGM trying them out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-RNLpKeToI __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

May 21, 2013, 09:23 PM	#27
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	I think, as a community, we have a responsibility when threads like this come up. To dump all those failed accessories on whoever asked the questions. Luckily for me, I gave away my last elastic butt-stock shell holder a few months ago.

May 22, 2013, 11:08 PM	#30
Creek Henry Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 514	A rig like this might work. I do use a nylon pouch with molly clips on my hunting vest sometimes for extra ammo if I am going far afield. That way I can ditch my laden vest and most of the stuff that's weighing me down and just carry that and my gun for short jaunts away from my blind. But, that's how I hunt, not everyone does that.

May 23, 2013, 07:06 AM	#31
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	Like BC said, you can do it however you like. You can have extra tabs in the drawer. MOst practice relading from one source primarily, so they are faster with that. Usually the on gun ammo. If you know it is empty and have the chance to switch out tabs do it. If not, load from wherever you put stuck the tabs to begin with. Like I said, I don't use it or own it. I know that almost all the other systems either don't work well at all or are much more expensive. None are as flexible I know that some people who have a lot of time with a defensive shotgun use this system and like it. The only downfall I can see is if you make your own and go cheap on the velcro or it starts to wear out and you don't replace it.

June 7, 2013, 07:39 AM	#34
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	Why unbalance the shotgun and make it hard to shoulder JMH BPSdave

June 8, 2013, 07:54 AM	#35
WV_gunner Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2011 Location: WV Posts: 938	I have an elastic shell holder on every gun I hunt with. Mainly because I like to keep the gun fully loaded and I can't stand to have my pockets full of stuff. My Mossberg 500 does have a plastic shell holder on the receiver. I like it much better than generic elastic shell holders. I also have a shell holder that velcros on my Goosegun.

June 12, 2013, 07:25 PM	#37
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...dhHRrU1Y8&NR=1 It doesn't look like retention of the shells is very good as when he pulls on them the belt doesn't move. Looks like any sort of tumble and the shells will fall out. What if you want to load just one? If you post a video of you throwing a couple across the room without any falling out and the same after someone rolls down a hill with them, I will be a believer. Until then, those look great... for three gun or other competition. I won't take them hunting or set them up for home defense though.

June 12, 2013, 10:30 PM	#38
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,307	John, there are lots of videos of guys using them in 3Gun, which is much more violent than hunting. We flop down prone on them and they stay tight. Better than caddies and in most cases velcro too. Heck, we have some SWAT entry guys using them, and group of guys who went to Argentina to bird hunt with them who had notihng but praise, but yeah, they probably are not good enough for you. If you want to load just one, only grab one...pretty simple. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

June 13, 2013, 01:54 PM	#39
Dragline45 Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2010 Posts: 3,513	I have a buttstock shell holder that I keep 5 slugs in, the gun I keep loaded with buckshot. I have researched the bandoliers and came to the same conclusion you did. If I wanted to carry more shells I would get a vest with molle loops and get some pouches to attach. Last edited by Dragline45; June 14, 2013 at 07:42 AM.

June 14, 2013, 07:31 AM	#40
dayman Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2011 Location: The Woods Posts: 1,197	Has anyone tried one of the holders that mounts onto the receiver? I got one of those with the idea that I could keep shot in the tube, and slugs in the carrier so if the "fox in the hen house" turns out to be a "bear in the garbage" I could adapt. I haven't put everything together yet, but it seems like it will be out of the way. __________________ si vis pacem para bellum

June 15, 2013, 05:33 PM	#42
Boomer58cal Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2013 Location: closer than you think Posts: 967	I have 5rd holder on my folding stock and a 6rder on the side of my mossy 500. I also have a 25rd belt. That's more than you'll ever need. Short of an all out zombie attack that is __________________ The number one cause of death in the 20th century. 290,000,000 citizens were first disarmed and then murdered by their own governments. This number does not include those killed in war. We're from the government, we're here to help

June 15, 2013, 07:39 PM	#43
WV_gunner Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2011 Location: WV Posts: 938	I've got a tac star side saddle on my Mossberg 500. I like it because its not some generic elastic shell holder. I wish they made them for all shotguns. It was simple to install. Mine has a wood stock and forearm so I needed to trim the forearm. Not a big deal. I read alot of reviews trying to a good side saddle. Seems like not fitting wood forearms was the only complaint. Simplest way to cut it down is remove the slide assembly and remove the forearm from it. I used a door striker plate to get the nut off. Then use a chop saw to trim it up. I think I had to take around 3/8ths off. Last edited by WV_gunner; June 15, 2013 at 07:59 PM.