Paul Gardner's article, Al Tarmiyah Firefight!

**4V50 Gary** · January 23, 2010, 11:55 AM

Thank you for printing Mr. Gardner's article. He made some very good points about the deficiency in his original training. It's funny but we've studied handgun operations for years including loading procedures, failure drills and to be aware of the threat(s) around us. As Mr. Gardner points out, when it comes to long arms, that is neglected. Hopefully the Corps and the Army takes note and begins instructing our marines and soldiers in tactical reloading.

**Bud Helms** · January 23, 2010, 12:12 PM

I was completely absorbed by his story. Great article and lessons learned the hard way. Gotta respect Paul Gardner's attitude.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 23, 2010, 12:20 PM

Yep - awesome article. I also really enjoyed Pat Roger's. His comment on Condition 3 carry was an ouch for some of the posts we've had on the issue. Bam!

I also enjoyed the SWAT show's Magpul segment on carbine use. I'm glad those guys still have knees that work. Ouch, also.

Every time I see a carbine show - I'm tempting to trade my standard ol' AR for a M4 configuration. Seems much more user friendly in size.

Denny Hansen · January 24, 2010, 01:54 PM

Appreciate the comments, guys.

In an upcoming issue Paul has an AAR on a Magpul carbine course he partricipated in--from his wheelchair. Being in courses with people who have whined about sore feet, the heat, the cold, bugs, etc., etc., his article will be a breath of fresh air and a real eye opener for many folks.

Lawyer Daggit · January 24, 2010, 05:55 PM

Sorry, but where is Paul Gardners' article?

**Bud Helms** · January 24, 2010, 06:38 PM

In the latest issue of S.W.A.T. magazine.

January 23, 2010, 11:55 AM	#1
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,832	Paul Gardner's article, Al Tarmiyah Firefight! Thank you for printing Mr. Gardner's article. He made some very good points about the deficiency in his original training. It's funny but we've studied handgun operations for years including loading procedures, failure drills and to be aware of the threat(s) around us. As Mr. Gardner points out, when it comes to long arms, that is neglected. Hopefully the Corps and the Army takes note and begins instructing our marines and soldiers in tactical reloading. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

January 23, 2010, 12:20 PM	#3
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Yep - awesome article. I also really enjoyed Pat Roger's. His comment on Condition 3 carry was an ouch for some of the posts we've had on the issue. Bam! I also enjoyed the SWAT show's Magpul segment on carbine use. I'm glad those guys still have knees that work. Ouch, also. Every time I see a carbine show - I'm tempting to trade my standard ol' AR for a M4 configuration. Seems much more user friendly in size. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 24, 2010, 01:54 PM	#4
Denny Hansen Staff Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2001 Location: Prescott Valley, AZ Posts: 2,422	Appreciate the comments, guys. In an upcoming issue Paul has an AAR on a Magpul carbine course he partricipated in--from his wheelchair. Being in courses with people who have whined about sore feet, the heat, the cold, bugs, etc., etc., his article will be a breath of fresh air and a real eye opener for many folks. __________________ S.W.A.T. Magazine Weapons, Training and Tactics for the Real World Join us at TFL or at AR15.com or on Facebook

January 23, 2010, 12:12 PM	#2
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	I was completely absorbed by his story. Great article and lessons learned the hard way. Gotta respect Paul Gardner's attitude.

January 24, 2010, 05:55 PM	#5
Lawyer Daggit Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Posts: 1,181	Sorry, but where is Paul Gardners' article?

January 24, 2010, 06:38 PM	#6
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	In the latest issue of S.W.A.T. magazine.