.44 mag Primer Question?

jr 1968 · March 27, 2011, 11:18 PM

I have a question that maybe some body can help me with. I bought a new
CVA Scout single shot rifle in .44 mag , and was wondering which is the
hotter primer CCI-350, Fed 155 or Win WLP.

Why I'am asking is right now I'am using CCI-350's and H-110 and it seems to
foul the barrel real quick. Is it because I'am not crimping my cases or the
primer?

I'am new to reloading straight wall cases so I'am clueless.

Thanks,
jr 1968

RWNielsen · March 28, 2011, 05:50 AM

What's your charge weight? If you go below minimum with H-110 it will be very sooty and can be dangerous as well. Generally there's a very small window between min and max, sometimes only 1 grain. It will need a firm crimp to assure complete ignition. Any LP magnum primer, including WLP should work with it.
Be careful and take care
Richard

WESHOOT2 · March 28, 2011, 06:19 AM

crimp, Redding Profile Crimp Die.....

Nevmavrick · March 28, 2011, 08:18 AM

I've done a LOT of chronographing with those primers, and very seldom see much difference between them. I've used a lot of WW296/H110 and those primers are quite good for SD.
What bullet are you using? A cast usually doesn't work all that well with the Lee die, but jacketed does OK. If you do a bunch of cast, ya might turn a couple thou off the expander pin. That'll increase the tension on the seated bullet.
Increasing the roll-crimp won't hurt, too.
Have fun,
Gene

Rifleman1776 · March 28, 2011, 08:25 AM

Hot primers are rarely, if ever, needed with .44 mag. Look to other causes.

jr 1968 · March 28, 2011, 02:41 PM

I'am using sierra 210jhc. and 1 gr. under max according to thier data.
Maybe I need to up the grains some.

Thanks,
jr 1968

PunchinPaper · March 29, 2011, 03:12 AM

Jr i have found that a heavy crimp always give me the best results in the 44mag. Just an idea 2400 also works great in a 44mag case.

Hog Buster · March 29, 2011, 03:43 AM

Put a good solid crimp on ‘em. H110 / 296 need to be crimped to ignite properly.

wncchester · March 29, 2011, 04:37 PM

IME, mag caps (and a good crimp) do help light off ball powders in a .44 mag. (Not really needed with 2400 or 4227 tho.)

Ozzieman · March 29, 2011, 07:30 PM

I agree with the firm crimp.
I shoot H110 out of a Ruger 77/44 and have very little fouling. There is some powder residue but it’s been very clean but I also load hot.

GeauxTide · March 29, 2011, 08:03 PM

As stated, firm crimp; however, a heavy bullet pull is in order with heavy charges of H110/296. Your sizing die should bring the case to minimum spec.

March 27, 2011, 11:18 PM	#1
jr 1968 Junior Member Join Date: March 26, 2011 Posts: 5	.44 mag Primer Question? I have a question that maybe some body can help me with. I bought a new CVA Scout single shot rifle in .44 mag , and was wondering which is the hotter primer CCI-350, Fed 155 or Win WLP. Why I'am asking is right now I'am using CCI-350's and H-110 and it seems to foul the barrel real quick. Is it because I'am not crimping my cases or the primer? I'am new to reloading straight wall cases so I'am clueless. Thanks, jr 1968 Last edited by jr 1968; March 28, 2011 at 01:56 AM.

March 28, 2011, 05:50 AM	#2
RWNielsen Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2009 Posts: 116	What's your charge weight? If you go below minimum with H-110 it will be very sooty and can be dangerous as well. Generally there's a very small window between min and max, sometimes only 1 grain. It will need a firm crimp to assure complete ignition. Any LP magnum primer, including WLP should work with it. Be careful and take care Richard __________________ NRA Lifer

March 28, 2011, 06:19 AM	#3
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	crimp, Redding Profile Crimp Die..... __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

March 29, 2011, 03:12 AM	#7
PunchinPaper Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2011 Posts: 148	Jr Jr i have found that a heavy crimp always give me the best results in the 44mag. Just an idea 2400 also works great in a 44mag case.

March 29, 2011, 03:43 AM	#8
Hog Buster Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2009 Location: Pointe Coupee, Louisana Posts: 772	Put a good solid crimp on ‘em. H110 / 296 need to be crimped to ignite properly. __________________ Those who beat their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.-Thomas Jefferson

March 28, 2011, 08:18 AM	#4
Nevmavrick Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2010 Location: Sparks, Nevada, near Reno Posts: 183	I've done a LOT of chronographing with those primers, and very seldom see much difference between them. I've used a lot of WW296/H110 and those primers are quite good for SD. What bullet are you using? A cast usually doesn't work all that well with the Lee die, but jacketed does OK. If you do a bunch of cast, ya might turn a couple thou off the expander pin. That'll increase the tension on the seated bullet. Increasing the roll-crimp won't hurt, too. Have fun, Gene

March 28, 2011, 08:25 AM	#5
Rifleman1776 Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,309	Hot primers are rarely, if ever, needed with .44 mag. Look to other causes.

March 28, 2011, 02:41 PM	#6
jr 1968 Junior Member Join Date: March 26, 2011 Posts: 5	I'am using sierra 210jhc. and 1 gr. under max according to thier data. Maybe I need to up the grains some. Thanks, jr 1968

March 29, 2011, 04:37 PM	#9
wncchester Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2002 Posts: 2,832	IME, mag caps (and a good crimp) do help light off ball powders in a .44 mag. (Not really needed with 2400 or 4227 tho.)

March 29, 2011, 07:30 PM	#10
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 6,117	I agree with the firm crimp. I shoot H110 out of a Ruger 77/44 and have very little fouling. There is some powder residue but it’s been very clean but I also load hot.

March 29, 2011, 08:03 PM	#11
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,424	As stated, firm crimp; however, a heavy bullet pull is in order with heavy charges of H110/296. Your sizing die should bring the case to minimum spec.