Uh-oh on moon clips

Lavan · September 12, 2012, 05:31 PM

I might have done a boo boo with buying that 25-2 S&W.

All the moon clips I am finding on line are for the 25-4 and ...later... model with the hexagonal ratchet.

My older model has the round ratchet on the extractor.

Am I condemned to half moons then?

testuser · September 12, 2012, 05:41 PM

Have you called S&W? They might be able to help you.

Lavan · September 12, 2012, 05:56 PM

They'd need the gun to fit a new ratchet. I'll sell the thing first.
I may try to find a Lee loader for auto rim that uses a hammer and blows the primers in your face every 7th round.

Quite ****** at myself. An ignorant buyer here.

Had no idea that there are no more supplies for such a once popular revolver.

Lavan · September 12, 2012, 05:57 PM

Almost positive that only Numrich can supply half moons and they are saying they don't have any ....yet.

Jim Watson · September 12, 2012, 06:45 PM

Don't panic. All previous posts are overkill. New ratchet, half moon clips are unnecessary.

I have some full moon clips with hexagonal center openings that are plenty large for the round ratchet on MY M25-2.
Unfortunately, they are loaners replacing gear lost in The Incident and I do not know what brand.

You can definitely get the S&W brand
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1...-CLIPS-4-CLIPS
FITS: 25-2, .45 ACP; 625-2, .45 ACP

Ranch Products originated the full moon clip and can probably provide the same style for less money.
http://ranchproducts.com/
But you will have to call, they don't seem to have a www catalog.

Rimz plastic clips are model specific, but they make both types. You need the 25, not the 625.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=2...MZ-SPEEDLOADER

Bob Wright · September 12, 2012, 08:10 PM

Forget about the clips. Just load the rounds as you would any revolver cartridge. Just have a yellow #2 wooden pencil on hand for ejecting the empties. You can even buy a hardwood dowel, stain and finish it with a polyurethane varnish. Even make a handle for it.

Bob Wright

AKsRul.e · September 12, 2012, 08:17 PM

.

This MFG specifically states they work on the SW 25-2

http://www.tkcustom.com/cart/shopdis...33&cat=.45+acp

drail · September 12, 2012, 10:45 PM

I have bought and used full moon since the 80s and they all have a hexagonal cut for the ratchets. They'll fit any S&W 25/625 that I have ever seen.

Lavan · September 13, 2012, 09:00 AM

You're all right. The gun shop got some in for me and they fit. S&W brand.

whew.

Cancel panic. Drive to bridge. Retrieve gun.

Bob Wright · September 13, 2012, 12:20 PM

By the way, it doesn't have to be a #2 pencil, nor does it have to be yellow. Those red Coca Cola pencils work just as well.

Bob Wright

FoghornLeghorn · September 13, 2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

have a yellow #2 wooden pencil on hand for ejecting the empties. You can even buy a hardwood dowel, stain and finish it with a polyurethane varnish. Even make a handle for it.

Holy cow. I wouldn't even own a revolver I had to go to that much trouble to shoot.

surveyor · September 13, 2012, 12:44 PM

the 25's are a joy to shoot..and all the brass is contained..

moon clips are a buck or less..
1911 mags, alot more..

Larry, I run the steel hex center moon clips in the 25 no dash with no issues..
they don't snag on the center, and the extractor star ejects them fine..

you'll like 45 ACP in a wheelgun..

Lavan · September 13, 2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Holy cow. I wouldn't even own a revolver I had to go to that much trouble to shoot.

My thoughts exactly.

That's why I have it in the shop right now having the chamber ends threaded to take percussion nipples.

Who NEEDS moons?

DFrame · September 14, 2012, 10:14 AM

I'd suggest you get a few 1/3 moon clips from Ranch Products. They should fit ANY model 25 and have the added advantage that they allow the "clipped" ammunition to sit in an ammo box. They're also just a bit easier to load and unload.

Bob Wright · September 15, 2012, 02:58 PM

FoghornLeghorn wrote:

Quote:

Holy cow. I wouldn't even own a revolver I had to go to that much trouble to shoot.

I was being facetious, of course. But those who truly enjoy shooting will go to whatever length necessary to enjoy their guns. Consider the blackpowder shooter who pours a measured amount of powder into each chamber, seats a greased wad, loads a ball so oversized it cuts a ring as its seated, smears the whole cylinder face with lard, presses a tight fitting cap onto the nipples, the cocks and fires off six rounds. Then he does this all over again.

Or the shooter who has maybe at most ten magazines holding six or seven rounds of ammunition which must be loaded one round at a time into a stiffly sprung magazine, then must lock back the slide of his pistol, insert the magazine, press the slide release, and fire off the six or seven rounds.

And for those really into the sport, they chip their flints, actually iron pyrite, clamp it in their cock, prime their pan with a very fine powder, close the frizzen, load more powder down the muzzle........well, you get the idea.

And consider the trouble you went to courting.....

The ends are worth the effort.

Bob Wright

Webleymkv · September 15, 2012, 03:11 PM

Bob, I wouldn't be surprised if I learned that you smoke a pipe too

Bob Wright · September 15, 2012, 03:15 PM

From Webleymkv:

Quote:

Bob, I wouldn't be surprised if I learned that you smoke a pipe too

Well, did at one time. Gave all smoking up in 1983 after twenty seven years as a smoker.

Bob Wright

FoghornLeghorn · September 17, 2012, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Consider the blackpowder shooter who pours a measured amount of powder into each chamber, seats a greased wad, loads a ball so oversized it cuts a ring as its seated, smears the whole cylinder face with lard, presses a tight fitting cap onto the nipples, the cocks and fires off six rounds

We're not talking about blackpowder, now are we?

Don't be obtuse.

CajunBass · September 18, 2012, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Holy cow. I wouldn't even own a revolver I had to go to that much trouble to shoot.

I think the pencil trick is easier than loading and unloading half/moon clips.

I'm in no hurry to shoot up my ammo.

wayneinFL · September 18, 2012, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Forget about the clips. Just load the rounds as you would any revolver cartridge. Just have a yellow #2 wooden pencil on hand for ejecting the empties. You can even buy a hardwood dowel, stain and finish it with a polyurethane varnish. Even make a handle for it.

Thanks, I needed that today.

drail · September 18, 2012, 08:43 AM

Be aware that some 625-2 revolvers will fire .45 ACP rounds without the clip and some will not. They're supposed to but there were quite a few made with headpsace variations that won't give you 100% full pin strikes. I have one from 1988 that needs clips and have seen others the same way. I have not seen this with any Model 25-2. You'll find out when you get it on the range.

Bob Wright · September 18, 2012, 09:02 AM

Foghornleghorn wrote:

Quote:

We're not talking about blackpowder, now are we?

Don't be obtuse.

No, Sir, we were not, originally. My reply was to the effect that shooters don't consider a chore the preparations required to fire their favorite guns, whether it be loading clips, magazines, or loose powder and ball.

My response was in reply to the one who commented on the "trouble" of loading.

I regret if you considered that off topic.

Bob Wright

Shadi Khalil · September 18, 2012, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunBass

I think the pencil trick is easier than loading and unloading half/moon clips.

I'm in no hurry to shoot up my ammo.

My thoughts exactly

September 12, 2012, 05:31 PM	#1
Lavan Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 1999 Location: California Posts: 2,714	Uh-oh on moon clips I might have done a boo boo with buying that 25-2 S&W. All the moon clips I am finding on line are for the 25-4 and ...later... model with the hexagonal ratchet. My older model has the round ratchet on the extractor. Am I condemned to half moons then?

September 14, 2012, 10:14 AM	#14
DFrame Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2008 Location: central Illinois Posts: 451	I'd suggest you get a few 1/3 moon clips from Ranch Products. They should fit ANY model 25 and have the added advantage that they allow the "clipped" ammunition to sit in an ammo box. They're also just a bit easier to load and unload. __________________ Mark Lane to William Buckley: "Have you ever referred to Jessee Jackson as an ignoramus?" Buckley: "If I didn't, I should have"

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September 12, 2012, 05:41 PM	#2
testuser Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2010 Posts: 495	Have you called S&W? They might be able to help you.

September 12, 2012, 05:56 PM	#3
Lavan Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 1999 Location: California Posts: 2,714	They'd need the gun to fit a new ratchet. I'll sell the thing first. I may try to find a Lee loader for auto rim that uses a hammer and blows the primers in your face every 7th round. Quite ****** at myself. An ignorant buyer here. Had no idea that there are no more supplies for such a once popular revolver.

September 12, 2012, 05:57 PM	#4
Lavan Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 1999 Location: California Posts: 2,714	Almost positive that only Numrich can supply half moons and they are saying they don't have any ....yet.

September 12, 2012, 06:45 PM	#5
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,529	Don't panic. All previous posts are overkill. New ratchet, half moon clips are unnecessary. I have some full moon clips with hexagonal center openings that are plenty large for the round ratchet on MY M25-2. Unfortunately, they are loaners replacing gear lost in The Incident and I do not know what brand. You can definitely get the S&W brand http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1...-CLIPS-4-CLIPS FITS: 25-2, .45 ACP; 625-2, .45 ACP Ranch Products originated the full moon clip and can probably provide the same style for less money. http://ranchproducts.com/ But you will have to call, they don't seem to have a www catalog. Rimz plastic clips are model specific, but they make both types. You need the 25, not the 625. http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=2...MZ-SPEEDLOADER

September 12, 2012, 08:10 PM	#6
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 2,987	Forget about the clips. Just load the rounds as you would any revolver cartridge. Just have a yellow #2 wooden pencil on hand for ejecting the empties. You can even buy a hardwood dowel, stain and finish it with a polyurethane varnish. Even make a handle for it. Bob Wright

September 12, 2012, 08:17 PM	#7
AKsRul.e Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 234	. This MFG specifically states they work on the SW 25-2 http://www.tkcustom.com/cart/shopdis...33&cat=.45+acp

September 12, 2012, 10:45 PM	#8
drail Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2008 Posts: 3,150	I have bought and used full moon since the 80s and they all have a hexagonal cut for the ratchets. They'll fit any S&W 25/625 that I have ever seen.

September 13, 2012, 09:00 AM	#9
Lavan Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 1999 Location: California Posts: 2,714	You're all right. The gun shop got some in for me and they fit. S&W brand. whew. Cancel panic. Drive to bridge. Retrieve gun.

September 13, 2012, 12:20 PM	#10
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 2,987	By the way, it doesn't have to be a #2 pencil, nor does it have to be yellow. Those red Coca Cola pencils work just as well. Bob Wright

September 13, 2012, 12:44 PM	#12
surveyor Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2007 Posts: 770	the 25's are a joy to shoot..and all the brass is contained.. moon clips are a buck or less.. 1911 mags, alot more.. Larry, I run the steel hex center moon clips in the 25 no dash with no issues.. they don't snag on the center, and the extractor star ejects them fine.. you'll like 45 ACP in a wheelgun..

September 15, 2012, 03:11 PM	#16
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,446	Bob, I wouldn't be surprised if I learned that you smoke a pipe too

September 18, 2012, 08:43 AM	#21
drail Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2008 Posts: 3,150	Be aware that some 625-2 revolvers will fire .45 ACP rounds without the clip and some will not. They're supposed to but there were quite a few made with headpsace variations that won't give you 100% full pin strikes. I have one from 1988 that needs clips and have seen others the same way. I have not seen this with any Model 25-2. You'll find out when you get it on the range.