Pattern experiment challenge...

hogdogs · March 17, 2010, 10:19 AM

Well a few years ago I posed a challenge to try air rifle pellets in a shot shell...

Now I have a new challenge....
Would any of you comfortable with reloading or modifying factory shells be willing to a take a "customized" shell to the pattern board?

Particularly in mind is 00 buck but feel free to try it with other pellet sizes.

I wondered if filling the shot load with parrafin wax would greatly decrease the spread for further range.

it could increase the spread and erratically at that as pellets holding wax as it breaks up may be flyers...

Brent

Lee Lapin · March 17, 2010, 01:04 PM

Brent,

What range are you tying to achieve here? I'd suggest you try some Federal LE-127 00 (9 pellet, 1325 FPS) with the Flite Control wad- it gives very tight patterns out of most open bore riot type shotguns. My favorite 870 with a factory 18" CYL bore will deliver 4" patterns at 25 yards/75 feet with this load with boring regularity.

lpl

zippy13 · March 17, 2010, 01:51 PM

Humm… Doesn't paraffin get pretty soft at warmer temperatures? Consequently, wouldn't any loads buffered with paraffin be very heat sensitive? The first one outta the pipe might perform one way, but the next ones, from the warming chamber, may be totally different.

I hate to think what a mag full of these loads would be like after a sitting awhile in the summer's sun. Don't shotguns have wood on their forearms to insulate your hands from the heat? For pattern control, I suspect you're better off using conventional buffering materials and special purpose wads.

Brent, did you get any meaningful results using air rifle pellets in shot shells? I ask 'cause I bought a junker Chinese air rifle a while ago along with a quantity of pellets. The air rifle's harsh trigger pull makes it virtually useless. The pellets are soft lead and I'm contemplating casting them into balls for my BP revolvers, but...

hogdogs · March 27, 2010, 01:21 AM

Zippy, the fella that fired the pellet loads found fliers and key holers proved the forward heavy "mini-slug" concept wasn't gonna work.

As for the heat, you may find the shells hold up pretty well. My father used to pour hot wax on the tops of paper shells and plastic reloads to seal them and I remember seeing this wax years later and they were not stored in climate ideal conditions and often in hot homes with no A/C...

Brent

zippy13 · March 27, 2010, 01:52 AM

Brent,

I guess the Chinese pellets are off to the lead pot for a bit of post consumer recycling.

I'm probably you father's age, and I still use hot wax to seal bad crimps. Don't have as many paper hulls as I once did. Anyone else still have a couple of red 20-ga Double-A hulls in circulation?

Pete

March 17, 2010, 10:19 AM	#1
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Pattern experiment challenge... Well a few years ago I posed a challenge to try air rifle pellets in a shot shell... Now I have a new challenge.... Would any of you comfortable with reloading or modifying factory shells be willing to a take a "customized" shell to the pattern board? Particularly in mind is 00 buck but feel free to try it with other pellet sizes. I wondered if filling the shot load with parrafin wax would greatly decrease the spread for further range. it could increase the spread and erratically at that as pellets holding wax as it breaks up may be flyers... Brent

March 17, 2010, 01:04 PM	#2
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Brent, What range are you tying to achieve here? I'd suggest you try some Federal LE-127 00 (9 pellet, 1325 FPS) with the Flite Control wad- it gives very tight patterns out of most open bore riot type shotguns. My favorite 870 with a factory 18" CYL bore will deliver 4" patterns at 25 yards/75 feet with this load with boring regularity. lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill.

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March 17, 2010, 01:51 PM	#3
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Humm… Doesn't paraffin get pretty soft at warmer temperatures? Consequently, wouldn't any loads buffered with paraffin be very heat sensitive? The first one outta the pipe might perform one way, but the next ones, from the warming chamber, may be totally different. I hate to think what a mag full of these loads would be like after a sitting awhile in the summer's sun. Don't shotguns have wood on their forearms to insulate your hands from the heat? For pattern control, I suspect you're better off using conventional buffering materials and special purpose wads. Brent, did you get any meaningful results using air rifle pellets in shot shells? I ask 'cause I bought a junker Chinese air rifle a while ago along with a quantity of pellets. The air rifle's harsh trigger pull makes it virtually useless. The pellets are soft lead and I'm contemplating casting them into balls for my BP revolvers, but...

March 27, 2010, 01:21 AM	#4
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Zippy, the fella that fired the pellet loads found fliers and key holers proved the forward heavy "mini-slug" concept wasn't gonna work. As for the heat, you may find the shells hold up pretty well. My father used to pour hot wax on the tops of paper shells and plastic reloads to seal them and I remember seeing this wax years later and they were not stored in climate ideal conditions and often in hot homes with no A/C... Brent

March 27, 2010, 01:52 AM	#5
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Brent, I guess the Chinese pellets are off to the lead pot for a bit of post consumer recycling. I'm probably you father's age, and I still use hot wax to seal bad crimps. Don't have as many paper hulls as I once did. Anyone else still have a couple of red 20-ga Double-A hulls in circulation? Pete