Replica of the 5.56 NATO round?

Lavid2002 · February 20, 2010, 08:53 PM

Does anyone know a good replica of the m193 Ball ammo? Edit: Just saw I accidentally typed M191

55 grain FMJ BT surplus rounds with conneleur (<--Spelling?)
AA2230(How many grains)
Remington 9 1/2 Small rifle BR primer (These are my .308 primers...I mean 7 1/2 OF COURSE)

How close can you get to the M193 ball?

KChen986 · February 20, 2010, 09:10 PM

Edit. Nvm. This is about handloads isn't it? I'm an idiot.

Scorch · February 20, 2010, 11:45 PM

You are asking about replicating/duplicating M191 ballistics with a similar bullet. You can buy Winchester FMJ bullets from Midway, you can buy W748 powder, and you can buy the hard primers. My question would be "Why?", but yes, it can be done.

Jimro · February 21, 2010, 12:40 AM

M191?

Am I missing something?

M193 is the 55 gr FMJ loading.

Jimro

radom · February 21, 2010, 06:31 AM

I was thinking that the M-193 used H-335 powder?

Lavid2002 · February 21, 2010, 08:56 AM

Just fixed my type-o of the M191 hahaha
M193 55 gr ball.

Just wondering what kind of powder they use. Seems like it would be a good base to start a new load from....no? Im currently using AA2230

snuffy · February 21, 2010, 01:36 PM

Now go back to fix your typo on the primer number, 9-½ is a LARGE rifle primer, it would be difficult to get seated in a .223 case! Yeah I know ya meant 7-½!

I echo the sentiment about WHY? You COLD attempt to duplicate the ball ammo, but you'd spend a lot of time, components, and wear and tear on your equipment doing it. Just buy whatever 55 grain bullet, load some for accuracy, and go shooting!

SKULLANDCROSSBONES65 · February 21, 2010, 02:43 PM

G'day. SIERRA has the 55gr FMJBT Game King #1355. It was intended to duplicate the military M193 bullet. Match the velocity and you should be good to go.

QBall45 · February 21, 2010, 03:49 PM

Why? You can use 55gr BTFMJ and H335 and get better performance than XM193. A Hot load does not mean it is accurate nor consistent. I like using mil spec factory ammo because its quality brass for handloading.

Lavid2002 · February 21, 2010, 09:15 PM

Just curious....
Ill stick with my loads ive been using then.

February 20, 2010, 09:10 PM	#2
KChen986 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Location: Ninja Mall Posts: 818	Edit. Nvm. This is about handloads isn't it? I'm an idiot. __________________ E Pluribus Unum Last edited by KChen986; February 20, 2010 at 09:20 PM.

February 20, 2010, 11:45 PM	#3
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	You are asking about replicating/duplicating M191 ballistics with a similar bullet. You can buy Winchester FMJ bullets from Midway, you can buy W748 powder, and you can buy the hard primers. My question would be "Why?", but yes, it can be done. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

February 21, 2010, 12:40 AM	#4
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	M191? Am I missing something? M193 is the 55 gr FMJ loading. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

February 21, 2010, 08:56 AM	#6
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Just fixed my type-o of the M191 hahaha M193 55 gr ball. Just wondering what kind of powder they use. Seems like it would be a good base to start a new load from....no? Im currently using AA2230 __________________ Math>Grammar

February 21, 2010, 01:36 PM	#7
snuffy Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2001 Location: Oshkosh wi. Posts: 3,055	Now go back to fix your typo on the primer number, 9-½ is a LARGE rifle primer, it would be difficult to get seated in a .223 case! Yeah I know ya meant 7-½! I echo the sentiment about WHY? You COLD attempt to duplicate the ball ammo, but you'd spend a lot of time, components, and wear and tear on your equipment doing it. Just buy whatever 55 grain bullet, load some for accuracy, and go shooting! __________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dog They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?

February 20, 2010, 08:53 PM	#1
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Replica of the 5.56 NATO round? Does anyone know a good replica of the m193 Ball ammo? Edit: Just saw I accidentally typed M191 55 grain FMJ BT surplus rounds with conneleur (<--Spelling?) AA2230(How many grains) Remington 9 1/2 Small rifle BR primer (These are my .308 primers...I mean 7 1/2 OF COURSE) How close can you get to the M193 ball? __________________ Math>Grammar Last edited by Lavid2002; February 21, 2010 at 09:14 PM.

February 21, 2010, 06:31 AM	#5
radom Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2000 Posts: 1,357	I was thinking that the M-193 used H-335 powder?

February 21, 2010, 02:43 PM	#8
SKULLANDCROSSBONES65 Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2008 Location: Far Nth Wst QLD Australia Posts: 992	G'day. SIERRA has the 55gr FMJBT Game King #1355. It was intended to duplicate the military M193 bullet. Match the velocity and you should be good to go. __________________ If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough! When you're confused, I'll try to use smaller words!!!

February 21, 2010, 03:49 PM	#9
QBall45 Senior Member Join Date: April 5, 2008 Location: South Central Minnesota Posts: 584	Why? You can use 55gr BTFMJ and H335 and get better performance than XM193. A Hot load does not mean it is accurate nor consistent. I like using mil spec factory ammo because its quality brass for handloading.

February 21, 2010, 09:15 PM	#10
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Just curious.... Ill stick with my loads ive been using then. __________________ Math>Grammar