What are my options for a pistol-caliber carbine?

308Gunner · February 1, 2013, 10:22 PM

I'm trying to figure out a suitable option for a pistol-caliber carbine. Right off the bat, I can't have a Hi-Point, CX4, or Sub2K, seeing as how I live in NY. The ones I've figured out I can probably have are a Ruger Police Carbine 9/40 or a Marlin Camp Carbine 9mm. And, of course, these are both out of production. I've been watching Gunbroker.com for ones that aren't ridiculously priced. And really, the PC9/40 is the better choice, since the Camp Carbine comes with 12 rd mags, so I'd have to find mags after the fact.

Anywho, if someone has suggestions, or has a Ruger Police Carbine for sale, I'm willing to listen

jaytothekizzay · February 1, 2013, 10:41 PM

Your best choice would be to move out of New York

Hairbag · February 1, 2013, 11:51 PM

^^^that's funny^^^ Moved away from that place 3 yrs ago and never looked back! The lunatics are now in charge of the asylum.

CTS · February 2, 2013, 09:50 AM

The only other suggestion I can think of right off is the Just right carbine.
http://www.justrightcarbines.com/ I've seen them on GB for $750.

308Gunner · February 2, 2013, 10:32 AM

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Your best choice would be to move out of New York

Not really an option right now, but I assure you, as soon as I can, I will

Gun owners that are staying in this state aren't doing it from choice.

308Gunner · February 2, 2013, 10:34 AM

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The only other suggestion I can think of right off is the Just right carbine.

Those are now illegal in the 'great' state of New York

CTS · February 2, 2013, 11:06 AM

Just because of the Pistol grip or what?

One_Hand_Hunter · February 2, 2013, 12:51 PM

One of my favorites is a 454 Puma lever action that is also made in 480 Ruger. These are fairly small carbines even smaller than a 30-30 Winchester. Rossi, I believe, bought out Puma, acouple of years ago and I think stopped making the 480 Ruger.

In case you are not familiar with these cartridges, the factory kicks like a .44 Mag which is also available in carbines but its fps is much higher as is its penetration. By comparison, a .44 in the same round will go about a foot in an aspen log that is three feet in length and a .454 will go completely through it.

The .480 by comparison is a much easier bullet to fire and I think it kicks much lesss than a .44, more like a .45 colt which is also available in carbines.

Lately we are seeing more and more .357 in carbines but I've not had a chance to fire one.

But I have a question for you. I understand that New York is working on being a gun free zone. I just bought an assult rifle (.458 Socum) from a retire NYC cop who can't even have one!

What are the new laws that came down by your Governor?

SC (One_Hand_Hunter)

Revoliver · February 2, 2013, 03:43 PM

Ruger 77/357.

Have one, absolutely love it. Fantastic little rifle.

pricedo · February 4, 2013, 10:15 PM

NYSers need to hold Cuomo's feet to the fire over the sneaky way he snuck the new assault ban through the legislature.
Being owned body & soul by Bloomberg is no excuse for such shabby, anti-democratic tactics.

chronic · February 4, 2013, 10:20 PM

Just before the gun ban fracas, I bought a hi point 995 ts 9mm carbine. I really enjoy carrying it and shooting it. I did notice it is on Feinsteins gun ban list.

bigghoss · February 4, 2013, 11:55 PM

Marlin also made a camp .45 that takes 1911 mags, which come in a 7-round capacity. You can also adapt the Hi-Point .45 to take 1911 mags but those have PG's which somehow makes them so much more deadly. It's a good thing you live in NY so you don't have to worry about those dangerous pistol grips or shoulder things that go up.

Maybe get a lever action .357. Aren't those exempt for a 7 round limit?

February 1, 2013, 10:22 PM	#1
308Gunner Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2008 Location: NY Posts: 199	What are my options for a pistol-caliber carbine? I'm trying to figure out a suitable option for a pistol-caliber carbine. Right off the bat, I can't have a Hi-Point, CX4, or Sub2K, seeing as how I live in NY. The ones I've figured out I can probably have are a Ruger Police Carbine 9/40 or a Marlin Camp Carbine 9mm. And, of course, these are both out of production. I've been watching Gunbroker.com for ones that aren't ridiculously priced. And really, the PC9/40 is the better choice, since the Camp Carbine comes with 12 rd mags, so I'd have to find mags after the fact. Anywho, if someone has suggestions, or has a Ruger Police Carbine for sale, I'm willing to listen __________________ ‘‘To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.’’ — George Mason

February 1, 2013, 11:51 PM	#3
Hairbag Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2010 Posts: 449	^^^that's funny^^^ Moved away from that place 3 yrs ago and never looked back! The lunatics are now in charge of the asylum. __________________ I'm hairbag and I approve this message.

February 2, 2013, 12:51 PM	#8
One_Hand_Hunter Junior Member Join Date: February 2, 2013 Posts: 3	Some options One of my favorites is a 454 Puma lever action that is also made in 480 Ruger. These are fairly small carbines even smaller than a 30-30 Winchester. Rossi, I believe, bought out Puma, acouple of years ago and I think stopped making the 480 Ruger. In case you are not familiar with these cartridges, the factory kicks like a .44 Mag which is also available in carbines but its fps is much higher as is its penetration. By comparison, a .44 in the same round will go about a foot in an aspen log that is three feet in length and a .454 will go completely through it. The .480 by comparison is a much easier bullet to fire and I think it kicks much lesss than a .44, more like a .45 colt which is also available in carbines. Lately we are seeing more and more .357 in carbines but I've not had a chance to fire one. But I have a question for you. I understand that New York is working on being a gun free zone. I just bought an assult rifle (.458 Socum) from a retire NYC cop who can't even have one! What are the new laws that came down by your Governor? SC (One_Hand_Hunter)

February 4, 2013, 11:55 PM	#12
bigghoss Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,664	Marlin also made a camp .45 that takes 1911 mags, which come in a 7-round capacity. You can also adapt the Hi-Point .45 to take 1911 mags but those have PG's which somehow makes them so much more deadly. It's a good thing you live in NY so you don't have to worry about those dangerous pistol grips or shoulder things that go up. Maybe get a lever action .357. Aren't those exempt for a 7 round limit? __________________ I don't collect guns, I accumulate them.

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February 1, 2013, 10:41 PM	#2
jaytothekizzay Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2008 Location: st. louis Posts: 450	Your best choice would be to move out of New York

February 2, 2013, 09:50 AM	#4
CTS Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: NE Georgia Posts: 1,070	The only other suggestion I can think of right off is the Just right carbine. http://www.justrightcarbines.com/ I've seen them on GB for $750.

February 2, 2013, 11:06 AM	#7
CTS Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: NE Georgia Posts: 1,070	Just because of the Pistol grip or what?

February 2, 2013, 03:43 PM	#9
Revoliver Member Join Date: September 4, 2012 Location: USofA Posts: 80	Ruger 77/357. Have one, absolutely love it. Fantastic little rifle.

February 4, 2013, 10:15 PM	#10
pricedo Member Join Date: September 3, 2008 Location: NRA LIFE MEMBER Posts: 55	NYSers need to hold Cuomo's feet to the fire over the sneaky way he snuck the new assault ban through the legislature. Being owned body & soul by Bloomberg is no excuse for such shabby, anti-democratic tactics.

February 4, 2013, 10:20 PM	#11
chronic Member Join Date: April 23, 2009 Posts: 97	Just before the gun ban fracas, I bought a hi point 995 ts 9mm carbine. I really enjoy carrying it and shooting it. I did notice it is on Feinsteins gun ban list.