You Might Be A Rural Texas Peace Officer:

LawDog · January 17, 2000, 01:19 AM

If your hat, belt and boots cost more than your sidearm.

If you know what a 'court gun' is.

If you have a 'court gun'.

If directions to a location involve livestock, property descriptions, or the words "When you get off the pavement."

If the winner of the last three bar room brawls was last years Homecoming Queen.

Dressing up for court involves pressed Wranglers and a Brushpopper shirt.

If anyone on the Department is named 'Bubba'.

If you don't know Bubba's real name.

If Bubba is his real name.

If you've ever gotten a confession from a critter by threatening him with either his Mama or God.

If your interview for the job involved the question: "Can you take a whuppin'?"

If you have more weapons and ammunition in your cruiser than most small nations have in their armies.

If you've ever had an 'Officer Involved Shooting' where the victim was a feral hog or other four-pawed critter with an appetite.

If the calibre of your sidearm is regarded as an artillery round in Europe.

You've ever had to mediate a dispute concerning the paternity of a litter of puppies.

If you have the impression that the Feds regard your department as being marginally more civilized than the Viking Hordes.

If you think all back-up is 30 miles away and asleep in bed.

If you've ever gone to an emergency wearing only your hat, pajamas, gun and boots.

If spurs are a department-issued item.

Sigh.
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

LawDog

Cowboy · January 17, 2000, 01:46 AM

LawDog,
Where in Texas 'you from?

LawDog · January 17, 2000, 02:06 AM

I was a Peace Officer up in the Panhandle.

Right now, I'm in the Wichita Falls area.

Yourself?

LawDog

Rosco P. Coltrain · January 17, 2000, 02:11 AM

If your department had a big celebration back in 1977 when the FCC expanded the Citizen's Band Radio Service from 23 to 40 Channels.

If the doors on your patrol car a welded shut.

If you have Yosemite Sam mud flaps on your pick-up.

If you have an eight track in your patrol car.

Cowboy · January 17, 2000, 02:24 AM

LawDog,
I'm from Houston, keep up the good work, and stay safe.

Cowboy

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BULLSH0T · January 17, 2000, 07:52 AM

I LOVE IT !!!

DC · January 17, 2000, 08:52 AM

Ok...I gotta ask...what is a court gun?

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

Racegun · January 17, 2000, 10:54 AM

The Court Gun is the purdy one you use to impress the Chief which is not to be confused with the BB-Q gun you would wear to the Gov'nor's BB-Q.

LawDog · January 17, 2000, 11:13 AM

A court gun is stainless steel or nickel with 3/4 to full engraving, and scrimshawed ivory or pearl grips. In the Panhandle, it's usually a 1911 or Commander.

The BBQ gun is the same treatment, except on a S&W revolver.

LawDog

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DC · January 17, 2000, 11:15 AM

LOL

I get it, its that engraved silver plated gun

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

Cowboy · January 17, 2000, 11:25 AM

I know what you mean, there are quite a few of those here...
Cowboy

**Dennis** · January 17, 2000, 12:21 PM

LawDog,

I'm in hysterics here!

'Bout eight years ago, when I was really active in EMS, I stopped to help a Deputy chase a bull back into a pasture. Ground was rough, we were on foot.

Trying to shoo a fair-sized bull CAN become exciting! Danged thing charged me and (according to the Deputy) I made it to his patrol car and completely cleared the hood of his Ford trying to get away from that bull. I don't remember the details - I was busy runnin'!

The Deputy laughed so hard and loud at me, that it caught the bull's attention and the bull charged the Deputy. He ended up in the bed of another fella's pickup. (I didn't know a big guy could move that fast!) He wasn't laughing so hard at that point.

'Bout this time the owner comes up on horseback, snickering at both of us. Bad idea. The rancher made some snotty remark (I didn't hear it) to the Deputy who went from "understanding" to "hard" real quick.

The Deputy's reply was, "One more time and we'll have us a bunch o' fresh beef! You understand me??"

Conversation over.

Rancher quietly herds bull into pasture. Deputy and EMT go to Stop n' Rob for coffee.

(I no longer herd bulls. Or steers, cows, or even large goats!

)

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Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.
Stick it to 'em! RKBA!

bruels · January 17, 2000, 01:19 PM

While we don't have "eatin'" cattle, we sure have a bunch of dairy herds. When a dairy goes belly up, you wouldn't believe the number of banks, companies and people that all own a piece of the herd. And they all want the sheriff to figure out who gets what.

I hate dairy cows.

Cowboy · January 17, 2000, 04:16 PM

Dennis,
I cannot stop laughing!
Only in Texas...

Cowboy

TBeck · January 17, 2000, 04:45 PM

In 1994 I visited the Texas Rangers Museum in Waco. Purdy. What I want to know is if all you Texan LEOs cut the triggerguard off your carry piece? Seriously, it's a great museum and I encourage anyone who can go and hasn't to make the trip.

Gopher · January 17, 2000, 04:51 PM

Dennis:

You actually saw someone on a horse? I thought all the ranchers now used 4-wheelers. They're cheaper to keep and you dont have to chase them down to saddle them and they dont bite if you forgot the carrots. LOL

**Dennis** · January 17, 2000, 05:53 PM

Cowboy,

Where were ya when I *needed* ya?

Tbeck,
I also enjoyed the Texas Rangers Museum in Waco. Right next door there's a cemetary with some old and interesting headstones in English, Spanish, or German. Toward the back, there's a row of headstones for soldiers who died in ... in ... well, back in the 1860s.

Gopher,
Riders still exist and work from horseback. But kids riding horses for fun is what you see more often. A rancher can carry a lot more tools, wire, and feed in a pick-up, I guess.

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Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.
Stick it to 'em! RKBA!

OkieGentleman · January 17, 2000, 10:34 PM

I was driving from Oklahoma City to Amarillo, Tx on I40 a few years ago.
There was a dozen pickup trucks, some with trailers pulled of on the right hand side.
One of the trailers had the back doors ripped off from inside.
Out in a field about 100 yrd from highway was a dozen cowboys trying to corral a VERY POd Brahama bull.
I pulled over to the side and watched the show for about 15 minutes. When I lefted there was still one POd Brahama bull loose and a dozen very tired cowboys circling him.
I laughed till I cried at the antics that were going on in that field. Even in cowboy boots and a plowed field some of those boys could really run.
We won't discuss the time I jumped thru a 7 strand barb wire fence to get away from a fighting cow that decided she did not like me in the same corral with her. Didn't even get a scratch, went thru that fence like a champion diver, hitting the ground on the other side hurt like h*ll though.

Cowboy · January 17, 2000, 11:30 PM

Dennis,
Wish I could've been there pal.

LawDog
My hat, belt, and boots do cost more then my sidearm...

LawDog · January 17, 2000, 11:42 PM

Of course they do, Cowboy. Resistol, Paul Bond and custom leatherwork is expensive as all get out.

LawDog

larry_minn · January 18, 2000, 12:11 AM

I delt with a Charlois Bull one time. Thing wound up weighing 1980 lbs. I chased him with a 357 and a 1 1/2 in X 4ft pipe. I have finished off a few deer and one cow hit by cars but wasn't sure that 357 would slow that bull down enough for me to get out of the way. As I recall its name was "Duffes" I hear he hurt one of the guys at the locker plant when they tried to unload him. "I guess I should have shot him"

TxShooter · January 18, 2000, 01:05 AM

The cut trigger guards were mainly popular in the 1930s, thanks to Colt representative J.H. FitzGerald. As far as I know, the 1911s owned by Captain M.T. Gonzaullas (Lone Wolf) that feature the cut guards were gifts from admirers, and were mostly just for show. Most regarded the modification as dangerous. Later, S&W incorporated a trigger guard that was narrowed on the right side on the Texas Ranger comm. Model 19. Some of the left over frames were marked as the 19-3 and sold through regular dealer channels.

**Art Eatman** · January 18, 2000, 01:36 AM

Someone asked our local deputy about "response time": "Well, now, ma'am, I reckon about 30 minutes, if all the gates are open."

You know you're in Brewster County, when a deputy will drive a drunk 15 miles to home--that's a lot better than 85 miles to the County Jail...

, Art

Jim V · January 18, 2000, 03:45 AM

So ya decided to sign up TxShooter? About time ya got your lazy butt over here.

Welcome to THE primo board.

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Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
"If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"

blooch · January 18, 2000, 08:48 AM

GOPHER... LOTS OF RANCHERS DON' T USE FOUR WHEELERS HERE BECAUSE THEY AREN 'T AS SMART AS HORSES AND THEIR RIDERS HAVE TO BE SMARTER THAN HORSES... FOUR WHEELERS SEEM TO KEEP GOING WHEN A HORSE WILL STOP ON HIS/HER OWN

January 17, 2000, 01:19 AM	#1
LawDog Staff Emeritus Join Date: September 15, 1999 Location: Where am I going? Why am I in this handbasket? Posts: 4,200	If your hat, belt and boots cost more than your sidearm. If you know what a 'court gun' is. If you have a 'court gun'. If directions to a location involve livestock, property descriptions, or the words "When you get off the pavement." If the winner of the last three bar room brawls was last years Homecoming Queen. Dressing up for court involves pressed Wranglers and a Brushpopper shirt. If anyone on the Department is named 'Bubba'. If you don't know Bubba's real name. If Bubba is his real name. If you've ever gotten a confession from a critter by threatening him with either his Mama or God. If your interview for the job involved the question: "Can you take a whuppin'?" If you have more weapons and ammunition in your cruiser than most small nations have in their armies. If you've ever had an 'Officer Involved Shooting' where the victim was a feral hog or other four-pawed critter with an appetite. If the calibre of your sidearm is regarded as an artillery round in Europe. You've ever had to mediate a dispute concerning the paternity of a litter of puppies. If you have the impression that the Feds regard your department as being marginally more civilized than the Viking Hordes. If you think all back-up is 30 miles away and asleep in bed. If you've ever gone to an emergency wearing only your hat, pajamas, gun and boots. If spurs are a department-issued item. Sigh. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. LawDog

January 17, 2000, 01:46 AM	#2
Cowboy Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 174	LawDog, Where in Texas 'you from?

January 17, 2000, 02:06 AM	#3
LawDog Staff Emeritus Join Date: September 15, 1999 Location: Where am I going? Why am I in this handbasket? Posts: 4,200	I was a Peace Officer up in the Panhandle. Right now, I'm in the Wichita Falls area. Yourself? LawDog

January 17, 2000, 02:11 AM	#4
Rosco P. Coltrain Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 1999 Posts: 267	If your department had a big celebration back in 1977 when the FCC expanded the Citizen's Band Radio Service from 23 to 40 Channels. If the doors on your patrol car a welded shut. If you have Yosemite Sam mud flaps on your pick-up. If you have an eight track in your patrol car.

January 17, 2000, 02:24 AM	#5
Cowboy Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 174	LawDog, I'm from Houston, keep up the good work, and stay safe. Cowboy [This message has been edited by Cowboy (edited January 17, 2000).]

January 17, 2000, 07:52 AM	#6
BULLSH0T Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: Shrub Oak, NY, USA Posts: 42	I LOVE IT !!!

January 17, 2000, 08:52 AM	#7
DC Moderator Emeritus Join Date: September 30, 1998 Location: Calif Posts: 4,229	Ok...I gotta ask...what is a court gun? ------------------ "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

January 17, 2000, 10:54 AM	#8
Racegun Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 1998 Location: Princeton, Texas..The North Dallas Forty Posts: 105	The Court Gun is the purdy one you use to impress the Chief which is not to be confused with the BB-Q gun you would wear to the Gov'nor's BB-Q.

January 17, 2000, 11:13 AM	#9
LawDog Staff Emeritus Join Date: September 15, 1999 Location: Where am I going? Why am I in this handbasket? Posts: 4,200	A court gun is stainless steel or nickel with 3/4 to full engraving, and scrimshawed ivory or pearl grips. In the Panhandle, it's usually a 1911 or Commander. The BBQ gun is the same treatment, except on a S&W revolver. LawDog [This message has been edited by LawDog (edited January 17, 2000).]

January 17, 2000, 11:15 AM	#10
DC Moderator Emeritus Join Date: September 30, 1998 Location: Calif Posts: 4,229	LOL I get it, its that engraved silver plated gun ------------------ "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

January 17, 2000, 11:25 AM	#11
Cowboy Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 174	I know what you mean, there are quite a few of those here... Cowboy

January 17, 2000, 12:21 PM	#12
Dennis Staff Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,079	LawDog, I'm in hysterics here! 'Bout eight years ago, when I was really active in EMS, I stopped to help a Deputy chase a bull back into a pasture. Ground was rough, we were on foot. Trying to shoo a fair-sized bull CAN become exciting! Danged thing charged me and (according to the Deputy) I made it to his patrol car and completely cleared the hood of his Ford trying to get away from that bull. I don't remember the details - I was busy runnin'! The Deputy laughed so hard and loud at me, that it caught the bull's attention and the bull charged the Deputy. He ended up in the bed of another fella's pickup. (I didn't know a big guy could move that fast!) He wasn't laughing so hard at that point. 'Bout this time the owner comes up on horseback, snickering at both of us. Bad idea. The rancher made some snotty remark (I didn't hear it) to the Deputy who went from "understanding" to "hard" real quick. The Deputy's reply was, "One more time and we'll have us a bunch o' fresh beef! You understand me??" Conversation over. Rancher quietly herds bull into pasture. Deputy and EMT go to Stop n' Rob for coffee. (I no longer herd bulls. Or steers, cows, or even large goats! ) ------------------ Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't. Stick it to 'em! RKBA!

January 17, 2000, 01:19 PM	#13
bruels Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1998 Location: Hayden, ID, USA Posts: 1,102	While we don't have "eatin'" cattle, we sure have a bunch of dairy herds. When a dairy goes belly up, you wouldn't believe the number of banks, companies and people that all own a piece of the herd. And they all want the sheriff to figure out who gets what. I hate dairy cows.

January 17, 2000, 04:16 PM	#14
Cowboy Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 174	Dennis, I cannot stop laughing! Only in Texas... Cowboy

January 17, 2000, 04:45 PM	#15
TBeck Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 1999 Posts: 248	In 1994 I visited the Texas Rangers Museum in Waco. Purdy. What I want to know is if all you Texan LEOs cut the triggerguard off your carry piece? Seriously, it's a great museum and I encourage anyone who can go and hasn't to make the trip.

January 17, 2000, 04:51 PM	#16
Gopher Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 1999 Location: Texas USA Posts: 367	Dennis: You actually saw someone on a horse? I thought all the ranchers now used 4-wheelers. They're cheaper to keep and you dont have to chase them down to saddle them and they dont bite if you forgot the carrots. LOL

January 17, 2000, 05:53 PM	#17
Dennis Staff Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,079	Cowboy, Where were ya when I needed ya? Tbeck, I also enjoyed the Texas Rangers Museum in Waco. Right next door there's a cemetary with some old and interesting headstones in English, Spanish, or German. Toward the back, there's a row of headstones for soldiers who died in ... in ... well, back in the 1860s. Gopher, Riders still exist and work from horseback. But kids riding horses for fun is what you see more often. A rancher can carry a lot more tools, wire, and feed in a pick-up, I guess. ------------------ Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't. Stick it to 'em! RKBA!

January 17, 2000, 10:34 PM	#18
OkieGentleman Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 1999 Location: OKC Metro Posts: 432	I was driving from Oklahoma City to Amarillo, Tx on I40 a few years ago. There was a dozen pickup trucks, some with trailers pulled of on the right hand side. One of the trailers had the back doors ripped off from inside. Out in a field about 100 yrd from highway was a dozen cowboys trying to corral a VERY POd Brahama bull. I pulled over to the side and watched the show for about 15 minutes. When I lefted there was still one POd Brahama bull loose and a dozen very tired cowboys circling him. I laughed till I cried at the antics that were going on in that field. Even in cowboy boots and a plowed field some of those boys could really run. We won't discuss the time I jumped thru a 7 strand barb wire fence to get away from a fighting cow that decided she did not like me in the same corral with her. Didn't even get a scratch, went thru that fence like a champion diver, hitting the ground on the other side hurt like h*ll though.

January 17, 2000, 11:30 PM	#19
Cowboy Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 174	Dennis, Wish I could've been there pal. LawDog My hat, belt, and boots do cost more then my sidearm...

January 17, 2000, 11:42 PM	#20
LawDog Staff Emeritus Join Date: September 15, 1999 Location: Where am I going? Why am I in this handbasket? Posts: 4,200	Of course they do, Cowboy. Resistol, Paul Bond and custom leatherwork is expensive as all get out. LawDog

January 18, 2000, 12:11 AM	#21
larry_minn Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 1999 Location: Minnesota, wow Posts: 219	I delt with a Charlois Bull one time. Thing wound up weighing 1980 lbs. I chased him with a 357 and a 1 1/2 in X 4ft pipe. I have finished off a few deer and one cow hit by cars but wasn't sure that 357 would slow that bull down enough for me to get out of the way. As I recall its name was "Duffes" I hear he hurt one of the guys at the locker plant when they tried to unload him. "I guess I should have shot him"

January 18, 2000, 01:05 AM	#22
TxShooter Member Join Date: October 20, 1999 Location: Texas/Brisbane, Australia Posts: 39	The cut trigger guards were mainly popular in the 1930s, thanks to Colt representative J.H. FitzGerald. As far as I know, the 1911s owned by Captain M.T. Gonzaullas (Lone Wolf) that feature the cut guards were gifts from admirers, and were mostly just for show. Most regarded the modification as dangerous. Later, S&W incorporated a trigger guard that was narrowed on the right side on the Texas Ranger comm. Model 19. Some of the left over frames were marked as the 19-3 and sold through regular dealer channels.

January 18, 2000, 01:36 AM	#23
Art Eatman Staff Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX, USA Posts: 17,438	Someone asked our local deputy about "response time": "Well, now, ma'am, I reckon about 30 minutes, if all the gates are open." You know you're in Brewster County, when a deputy will drive a drunk 15 miles to home--that's a lot better than 85 miles to the County Jail... , Art

January 18, 2000, 03:45 AM	#24
Jim V Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 1999 Location: SE Michigan - USA Posts: 4,041	So ya decided to sign up TxShooter? About time ya got your lazy butt over here. Welcome to THE primo board. ------------------ *Ne Conjuge Nobiscum* "If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"

January 18, 2000, 08:48 AM	#25
blooch Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 1999 Location: texas Posts: 152	GOPHER... LOTS OF RANCHERS DON' T USE FOUR WHEELERS HERE BECAUSE THEY AREN 'T AS SMART AS HORSES AND THEIR RIDERS HAVE TO BE SMARTER THAN HORSES... FOUR WHEELERS SEEM TO KEEP GOING WHEN A HORSE WILL STOP ON HIS/HER OWN