LIL'GUN in 357 mag, WOW

Clark · July 11, 2001, 05:15 PM

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/index.htm

Hodgdon lists this load:
10", XTP, 1.580" 18 gr, 25.8k cup, 1577 fps

The "Midway Loadmap" says 10" is:
17.3 gr, 30.4 kpsi, 1579 fps, 1.580" XTP FP
13.0 gr, 26.5 kpsi, 1378 fps, 1.580" XTP FP

17.2 gr, 35 kpsi, 1610 fps, 1.570" XTP HP
13.0 gr, 27.8 kpsi, 1390 fps, 1.570" XTP HP

If one belives Hodgdon's pressure and Midway's reduced loads, then a person could make 357 mag velocities at 38 special pressures.

Believe what you will, I have been shooting the 18 gr with various 158 and 160 gr bullets, and that load is a handful.

LIL'GUN is stange stuff. The gun kick something awful, and the brass and primer look like this is just another load.

Boo586 · July 13, 2001, 09:20 AM

Clark,

What kind of accuracy are you getting? I have heard not so great of things about Lil'Gun and the accuracy department. What kind of gun are you shooting it out of? Do you have any chrono data for your loads and gun? I really want to try it for my hunting loads because of the lower pressures reported and the really high velocities. What kind of primers and cases are you using?

I am drooling for some more info if you have any.

Boo586

Clark · July 13, 2001, 10:56 AM

I was able to keep the holes on the paper at 50 feet. This is the same accuracy I get from dozens of pistols with all ammo. I am not a very good shot.To test my guns for accuracy, I have others shoot them. If I can get a volenteer, I will forward.

The gun was a Colt Police Positive surplus $79 from AIM.

I took my chrono appart to "improve" it. It doesn't work now. I compare velocities through recoil.

Hal · July 13, 2001, 08:52 PM

Quote:

I took my chrono appart to "improve" it. It doesn't work now.

LOL! If I had a nickle for everything I've "Improved" over the years that same way, I could restock my safe with new guns

July 11, 2001, 05:15 PM	#1
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	LIL'GUN in 357 mag, WOW http://www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/index.htm Hodgdon lists this load: 10", XTP, 1.580" 18 gr, 25.8k cup, 1577 fps The "Midway Loadmap" says 10" is: 17.3 gr, 30.4 kpsi, 1579 fps, 1.580" XTP FP 13.0 gr, 26.5 kpsi, 1378 fps, 1.580" XTP FP 17.2 gr, 35 kpsi, 1610 fps, 1.570" XTP HP 13.0 gr, 27.8 kpsi, 1390 fps, 1.570" XTP HP If one belives Hodgdon's pressure and Midway's reduced loads, then a person could make 357 mag velocities at 38 special pressures. Believe what you will, I have been shooting the 18 gr with various 158 and 160 gr bullets, and that load is a handful. LIL'GUN is stange stuff. The gun kick something awful, and the brass and primer look like this is just another load.

July 13, 2001, 09:20 AM	#2
Boo586 Member Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 85	Clark, What kind of accuracy are you getting? I have heard not so great of things about Lil'Gun and the accuracy department. What kind of gun are you shooting it out of? Do you have any chrono data for your loads and gun? I really want to try it for my hunting loads because of the lower pressures reported and the really high velocities. What kind of primers and cases are you using? I am drooling for some more info if you have any. Boo586

July 13, 2001, 10:56 AM	#3
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	I was able to keep the holes on the paper at 50 feet. This is the same accuracy I get from dozens of pistols with all ammo. I am not a very good shot.To test my guns for accuracy, I have others shoot them. If I can get a volenteer, I will forward. The gun was a Colt Police Positive surplus $79 from AIM. I took my chrono appart to "improve" it. It doesn't work now. I compare velocities through recoil.