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Old August 23, 2014, 04:56 PM   #26
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My Model 81 Rem looks to have a reasonably strong front lockup.It also has really old springs,and its recoil operated.I have enough 30-06 rifles ,plus a 308,I do not feel a need to push it.
Besides,I have no desire to scope the 81.I don't need 300 yd ballistics with 150 yd eyes,more or less.

Gunplummer,I'm not sure I understand your point.(My fault)

I see value in McShooty's info.That 160 gr bullet might work great.Some of the new powders can give more velocity without raising peak pressure.They do it by having a longer pressure curve...more acceleration time at peak pressure,almost like a mix of fast and slow powder.

I have a Garand,a Springfield,and a Mauser 30-06.I made a simple rule for myself.Everything 30-06 that I load with a match bullet,I load to Garand spec.(like 4895 at around 2600)

If I load hunting bullets,I load 4350 for the bolt near max,I get about 2900.

I don't really pay much attention to factory loads,I don't buy them.I buy new brass and load it.

Old cartridges have been loaded in old and modern rifles.45-70 for a trapdoor ,Marlin 1895,or Ruger?7x57 for a Rolling Block?93 Mauser?Mark 10 98? 30-40 Krag for a Krag?or Ruger #3? I would not define the .257 Roberts with the 117 gr round nose limp factory load.I would not define the 7x57 with the typical 175 gr round nose load .For many years,that was pretty much all that was available.Now there are light mags,etc.Nothing wrong with entering prudent handloads into the picture.Key is considering the rifle you are working with.

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Old September 4, 2014, 12:41 AM   #27
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300 savage Remington Corloc 150gr have given very consistant Cronograph readings. Out of two 24" model 99's I have. Ammo from the 50's ran 2641fps average in both. Ammo from the 90's shot 2641fps average. Consitant Barrels from Savage and Consistant Ammo from Remington. My 22" Remington 700 in 308 shoots 150gr bullets with the best powder choices Like Varget at 2800fps. W748 can improve on that velocity According to the 308 reloading data and has been reported by some reliable sources in the 2950fps. 160fps to 310fps increase out of the 308 case. Here is what I found for Reloading both the 308 and 300 savage with Varget. The 24" 300 with a 150gr #3031 Hornady can be loaded to 42gr and I get 2600fps. The 308 with 47gr Varget and the #3031 Hornady I get 2800fps. A straight 200fps gain out of the 22" 308.
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Old Yesterday, 05:10 PM   #28
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Murray's book and lever boss date codes Savage 99

I recently acquired an Savage 99 EG sr# 7164xx, date code E (1953) in 300 Savage.
I have Mr. Murray's book. "The Ninety-Nine" and can find no mention of the "lever boss date codes". Am I overlooking them in his book or they not included?
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Old Today, 01:22 PM   #29
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I've always urged people to use SAAMI's info when comparing cartridge A to cartridge B. They use test barrels and pressure instrumentation based on tightly controlled standards. All sorts of people shooting all sorts of rifles with all sorts of ammo for a given cartridge will have measured velocity and mostly assumed pressure data all over the place; that skews any realistic and valid comparison.

Test barrel specs are listed starting on page 135 in:

...which is the ANSI/SAAMI Z299.4 document referenced in the velocity and pressure document for center fire rifles.
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Thank you Bart and all the other that replied. I will check the data from sammi as well.
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