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Old August 28, 2014, 10:59 PM   #26
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....and now the State Gov. knows you have a 7/16" socket.

Somehow that may be the very worst result.

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Old August 29, 2014, 05:25 PM   #27
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and use of the socket with a ratchet requires a special license...and my be prohibited in your state...

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Old August 29, 2014, 10:25 PM   #28
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According to the Initiative, you get to loan your friend your socket only during Flathead V-6 Season, and you and he must be together with the socket at all times. You must have your socket back by close of Season. The next day, too bad, you're in violation. You may loan your sockets at an approved flathead repair facility, permitted by the County. No private repair facilities may suffice, such as a shade tree, or a private garage, it must be fully permitted and licensed. You may loan a socket to a friend at an approved Flathead V-6 Car Show, but again, you must be present at all times. You must retrieve your socket before the end of the Car Show.
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I'm glad people are making fun of this; Bloomberg and his people are sure controlling; can we expect any less?


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Old August 30, 2014, 10:06 PM   #29
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The kind of hyper restrictive regulation we are used to as gun owners seems foolish when applied to anything else. Their excuse is always "but guns are not like anything else"...and they are not. But yet, they are, at the same time.

There is nothing in this world that cannot be (mis)used to harm others, if that is the intent of the person wielding it. Firearms are inanimate objects. They have no free will, and cannot act on their own. It ALWAYS takes a person.

Personally, I don't think we should have any laws focused on inanimate objects, rather we should focus on ACTs committed by people. Not what they used.

Unfortunately, that approach takes more work than simply banning possession of something.
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Old September 1, 2014, 10:32 PM   #30
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There is nothing in this world that cannot be (mis)used to harm others, if that is the intent of the person wielding it.

Couldn't agree more 44.


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Old September 19, 2014, 04:38 PM   #31
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Here's how I look at it. The "tougher" we get on guns, the more criminals will turn to the black market. Right now, its relatively easy to buy guns legally and divert them to criminals which is why we dont see a lot of large organized groups smuggling and selling guns like we see with drugs, but that will change if we make it harder for criminals to get guns.

Like drugs, once we banned them completely and started enforcing them strictly, the black market exploded due to more demand and now despite wasting billions of dollars on enforcing ddrug laws, things like heroin are widely available, cheap, and more dangerous than ever.

The same thing will happen with guns. The harder we make it to get them illegally, the more incentive crimanls have to sell them on the black market. Eventually, the incentive will be high enough for people to actually manufacture guns illegally, its not hard, all you need is about 10-$20,000 in startup money to buy the metal working equipment, chump change for large criminal organizations like the ones that smuggle drugs into the country.

WE don't see homemade guns now because its easy enough to get them from manufacturers, take that away and homemade guns will become commonplace in the criminal underworld.

We will never solve the gun violence problem by trying to keep guns away from criminals. We need to work on solving the problems that drive people to commit acts of violence. Poverty and racism are big ones, there's a reason there aren't many upper class white neighborhoods with gun violence problems. It has nothing to do with certain races being more violent or lazy or anything like that, it has to do with decades of racial disparities and economic problems that create an incentive for and a culture of violence where crimnal activity is tolerated and even romanticized.
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