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Old August 12, 2014, 01:29 AM   #51
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Some may remember the late Flim Flam [Jay Philips] from the rec.guns forum in the 1990s.

A a disappointed customer in his pawn shop in Crystal Springs FL impaled impaled him with a Samurai sword, and then Flim Flam shot and killed the customer with a 25acp.

I sold Flim Flam a 12 ga shot gun receiver. None of his posts ever indicated he used a wimpy 25acp. Then the incident happened, and even those who engaged in flame wars with him became concerned. He sold the pawn shop and died a few years later.
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Old August 12, 2014, 12:36 PM   #52
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Clark:

I thought I recognized the story about J. Phillips. The shooting you describe is presented in the book "Guns Save Lives: True Stories of Americans Defending Their Lives with Firearms." The story is in Chapter 12, "Death of a Ninja Warrior".

You can read part of it online by going to Amazon and clicking on the "Look Inside" feature - http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Save-Live...uns+save+lives
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Old August 12, 2014, 06:53 PM   #53
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I have a sweet little Dusek Duo 25acp made in 1941..great little shooter. I also read where someone shot an intruder from his couch in his living room and dropped him dead with a 25..

Just my 2 cents
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Old August 14, 2014, 11:07 AM   #54
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From Google groups on rec.guns from 2000

R.M.R.
10/1/00
Owner attacked (Very important)please read
Just got off the phone with FlimFlam.(813-870-4000 room 511)Talked with
him for about a half hour and he sounded very good.He told me the story
and the details of it I'll leave up to him but the reason for the 25 was
as this guy came in and stabbed him he was sitting down,His Glock next
to him on the desk,his chair had wheels and as he pushed back,he pushed
so hard he fell out of the chair and couldn't get to his Glock because
he was on the floor.The guy didn't only stab him he but beat him with
the butt of the sword.Dave wanted space between the two and went to his
back room as the fight went on and grabbed a peace but it wasn't
loaded.At this time it was pretty hand to sword combat and the guy was
down and come up and stuck him again,in the lower stomach out his
buttocks cutting his colin,A
through
and through.Dave pulled the sword out of himself.At that time he
realized he had his Beretta 25 in his pocket (ball ammo) and fired 4
shots in his head.He went down and yes died.This was very emotional for
me and I think I need a beer now but Dave sounded good and when I told
him of the concern in the group he just said WHY.He's a pretty humble
person when you get to talk to him one on one.He was very appreciated of
the concern on this NG and said thank you all very much.This nutcase has
been under investigation for 2 months because he had this thing for a
local weather tv channel lady.His van was loaded with .357 ammo and
ninja clothes and swords.The police assume Dave was his jumping off
point for something bigger.At FlimFlams expense he did a public service
and took him out.Got to get that beer now.Thanks for listening.PS he
said the nurses are real pretty and treat him real good and should be
leaving there the middle of next week if everything checks out good but
he's going to be laid up for a long time....Thanks again
Ray,
(SI vis pacem,
para bellum)
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