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Old July 27, 2014, 10:31 PM   #26
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Typically situations play out like so,

Boss to media- "They acted vigilantly. They acted bravely."

Boss to Hero- "Thank you for saving everyones life. However, this is a gun free workplace. We have to let you go."
Glockstar, I'm curious -- can you cite any actual instances in which this happened?
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Old July 27, 2014, 11:48 PM   #27
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I've heard of some store clerks and delivery folks who have been let go after thwarting a robbery or assault, can't cite a place or time, may be apocryphal.

Part of me says, "I hope the hospital fires him", thusly creating a national revulsion against stupid gun policies, but he should keep his job if he still wants it, says the other part of me.
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Old July 28, 2014, 07:20 AM   #28
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Boss to Hero- "Thank you for saving everyones life. However, this is a gun free workplace. We have to let you go."
Apparently not, in this instance:

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/doctor...d-by-hospital/

Color me optimistic, but this could be a turn-around for some corporate "wisdom" on firearms.
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Old July 29, 2014, 04:40 PM   #29
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Glockstar, I'm curious -- can you cite any actual instances in which this happened?
Vanya sure here ya go. Havent shopped at autozone since.

www.theblaze.com/.../autozone-employee-and-veteran-fired-fo.
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Old August 1, 2014, 01:43 PM   #30
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If the doctor does get into any trouble with the hospital over this incident, he should preface every response he makes with this phrase:

"If I had followed the policy, I would be dead now, and most likely so would a lot of other innocent people."

He should reiterate that every time he answer one of their questions, and every time he answers a question from the media. Over and over.

Enough repetition, and it might get through some thick heads.
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Old August 1, 2014, 02:27 PM   #31
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The hospital already released a statement saying they were happily awaiting his return to practice. So it looks like he will do OK there.

In addition, it appears he pulled off the whole thing with a Seecamp .32 that he pulled after the bad guy grazed the side of his head with a round. Some good nerves there.
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Old August 2, 2014, 09:09 AM   #32
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If he is allowed to remain, I wonder if the Hospital will let him continue to carry his firearm against Policy?
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Old August 2, 2014, 11:41 AM   #33
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I hope the hospital changes its policy...and as noted, that other businesses do as well.
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Old August 2, 2014, 01:06 PM   #34
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I hope the hospital changes its policy...and as noted, that other businesses do as well.
OH, they will change something, that's a given. Odds are it will be just the opposite of what you hope for.

My guess is Metal detectors and increased security to start, then on to possible random searches of Office space and personal belongings.
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Old August 5, 2014, 11:18 AM   #35
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H, they will change something, that's a given. Odds are it will be just the opposite of what you hope for.

My guess is Metal detectors and increased security to start, then on to possible random searches of Office space and personal belongings.
Unfortunately this probably will be the case
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Old August 5, 2014, 08:28 PM   #36
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OH, they will change something, that's a given. Odds are it will be just the opposite of what you hope for.
They didn't fire the guy, so already things are better than I hoped. From a policy standpoint, they probably should have fired him. He did knowingly break the rules and did so for an extended period of time. That they didn't fire him is very positive.
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Old August 6, 2014, 12:12 PM   #37
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I keep watching this thread for updates and every time I click on it, I remember the quote from the news report to the effect that the hospital was reviewing their security procedures and policies. It sounded almost as if they were going to revise their "no-guns" policy to "no guns unless you have a carry license" - but wishful thinking only works in children's stories...
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Old October 9, 2014, 03:19 PM   #38
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The county DA's name is Whelan:
"As for Silverman, Whelan said that he believed it was the doctor's practice to carry a gun for self-protection and that he was in compliance with all state laws."
Was he?

According to PA law.

5122. Weapons or implements for escape.
(a) Offenses defined.--
(1) A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if he unlawfully introduces within a detention facility, correctional institution or mental hospital, or unlawfully provides an inmate thereof with any weapon, tool, implement, or other thing which may be used for escape.


Was this Doctor in violation of State Law as well as Company Policy as he carried his firearm into a "mental Hospital"?

Is this case similar to the guy in Texas that just killed two bad guys in a Bar. Texas law states it is Illegal to carry in a bar, PA law says it's illegal to carry in a Mental Hospital, is there a difference?
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Old October 9, 2014, 03:50 PM   #39
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Was this Doctor in violation of State Law as well as Company Policy ......as he carried his firearm into a "mental Hospital"?
If you do a quick web search you will find a couple of dozen hospitals listed as mental hospitals in PA. The hospital he was in is not described as one of them.

Many hospitals may have a mental health or behavior health wards but are not "mental hospitals."

The definition of "mental" hospital is important.

So no, he was not in violation of state law.
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