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Old July 26, 2014, 08:34 AM   #26
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Except the 600 carbine has a reverse dog leg bolt handle, no?
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Old July 26, 2014, 04:13 PM   #27
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yep.
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Old July 26, 2014, 04:42 PM   #28
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true but note that it drops the bolt knob right behind the trigger just as the P14 and M1917s do.
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Old July 27, 2014, 07:27 AM   #29
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Exactly!
Its the relationship between bolt knob & trigger that works, not how you get there.
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Old July 30, 2014, 12:07 AM   #30
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the cartridge and rifling was developed by a fellow , William Ellis Metford
Nope. The .303 cartridge, believe it or not, was developed by the Swiss Major (later Colonel) Eduard Rubin, of Schmidt-Rubin fame.

Additionally, there is no evidence that James P. Lee's application for U.S. citizenship was ever been finalized.
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Old July 30, 2014, 07:41 AM   #31
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"Nope. The .303 cartridge, believe it or not, was developed by the Swiss Major (later Colonel) Eduard Rubin, of Schmidt-Rubin fame."

No, not really. Rubin developed a prototype rimless cartridge that was sort of similar to the .303, but it wasn't bottlenecked.

The British obtained a bunch of Rubin cartridges for testing. In practice, it turned out to be both impractical and dangerous.

From that point on, it was all British development leading to the .303 adopted in 1889.

See here for more information.

https://sites.google.com/site/britmilammo/-303-inch
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Old July 30, 2014, 09:01 AM   #32
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Can't add much

But, the OP's photo of that absolutely mint #1 seems way too perfect for a military grade weapon. Are there any such beasts? What would the story have been with them?
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Old July 30, 2014, 09:57 AM   #33
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AS far as I know, the Rem 600 series is long gone from production. They did, however recently (a few years ago) produce the 673, which had a metal vent rib, a similar front sight (not identical to the 600 but a similar "shark fin" shape). The 673 has a regular bolt handle. .350 Rem Mag (and maybe 6.5Rem mag, although I never saw one in the smaller caliber).

Never heard of a 600 style rifle in .308 as even a limited new production gun.

If you want a 600 class rifle in .308, get a Model 7. Close to the same thing, without the rib, dogleg bolt and with a different stock. (OK, the action is not identical to the 600 series, either. But its close.)
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Old July 30, 2014, 09:59 AM   #34
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They exist.
I have a pair of really nice rifles, a No4 Mk2 & a No5 Mk1.
The No4 was stored & never issued till I got my grubby paws on it so it looks cherry.


All it did for 50 years was lay in a cocoon of brown paper & cosmolene.

No1's were made by Australia up through the 60's IIRC so its quite possible to find a mint condition one.
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Old July 30, 2014, 10:17 AM   #35
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According to what I'm finding, the 600 and the 660 came (not sure if all were available in both) in:

.222 Remington
.223 Remington
6mm Remington
6.5 Rem. Mag.
.243 Win.
.308 Win.
.35 Remington
.350 Remington Mag.

A friend of mine had a .350. It was pretty brutal to shoot with full power loads, but he handloaded it back to between .35 Rem and .358 Win. and took a LOT of deer with it.
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Old July 30, 2014, 01:12 PM   #36
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according to wiki, and that's about as reliable as a mexican translator in spain. the 600 and derivatives was offered in 308. I've seen them in 243 and don't see why they would have offered one and not the other, same case, bolt face, mag, etc.
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Old July 30, 2014, 01:20 PM   #37
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Well, I know for a fact that the Mohawk was available in .308, because my minister in Pennsylvania had one.

Remington confirms it here:

http://www.remington.com/products/ar...ohawk-600.aspx
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Old July 30, 2014, 01:22 PM   #38
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And this confirms the total list of cartridges available for the 600:

http://www.remington.com/products/ar...0-carbine.aspx

And this takes care of the 660:

http://www.remington.com/products/ar...model-660.aspx


I'll be damned. Wikipedia was.... RIGHT!
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Old July 30, 2014, 01:24 PM   #39
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God they were ugly little rifles.

A friend a few years ago gave me his cousin's deer rifle, a Remington 722 in .300 Savage.

It was obvious that whomever had had it wanted to emulate a 600/660.

The barrel has been chopped to about 18-20 inches, and it has the freaking ugliest Bishop stock I have ever seen on it.

Replacing the stock would be a good idea no matter what, but I already have a 722 with a full length barrel and the correct stock.
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Old July 30, 2014, 01:55 PM   #40
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Proof that beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I always liked the "odddball" look of the 600/660 series.
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Old July 30, 2014, 10:34 PM   #41
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I have some of the 600 series rifles, .222, .243 (Mohawk), 6mm, .308, and .350 Mag.

The .223 is really rare, and 98% of the .223 model 600s are rechambered .222s. Last time I saw the factory original .223s were in the neighborhood of 5 grand ($5000)

One of the 6.5s is on my wish list, and maybe, someday....

I think the only way I'll ever find one of the .35s is if it happens to fall in my lap.

Lots of folks thought they were ugly, I always thought they look cool. Excellent guns if you carry one a lot, and only shoot a little at a time.
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Old July 30, 2014, 11:49 PM   #42
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some member here posted a picture of his 600 in a quilted maple, thumbhole mannlicher stock... the goofiest sounding concept I've ever heard of, but it was one of the neatest looking rifles I've ever laid eyes on.
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