The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Art of the Rifle: Semi-automatics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old May 22, 2014, 01:30 PM   #26
Lt. Skrumpledonk Ret
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 30, 2012
Location: Oh, Jesus.
Posts: 206
I bought a Romanian SAR-1 just over a decade ago. I shot it about 1,000 times before the trigger wore out and it started to double-fire. Who knows if it was brand new when I got it at a gun show (?) I put in a $25 Tapco trigger and it is oh-so crisp. I was shocked at how easy the trigger installation went. That rifle is perfect for deer hunting: really short and really light. I've harvested 4 whitetails with it.
Lt. Skrumpledonk Ret is offline  
Old May 26, 2014, 07:52 PM   #27
RickE
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2009
Location: Kirkland Wa.
Posts: 516
Poster reply

Hi, It's Rick E.

I just viewed a Wasr, M&M, and a couple other block country variants. Then, I found the Saiga 7.62 in the (sport version). In lieu of a Ruger Mini 30 at $850.00+, I love the Saiga at $499.00
RickE is offline  
Old May 26, 2014, 08:14 PM   #28
oldscot3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 1, 2007
Location: texas
Posts: 314
The n pap is really nice. The butt stock has comb that is high for it's open sights, but just right for a receiver mounted optic. If irons only is what you want, or a low forward mounted red dot, get another stock and keep the issue one in a drawer for later.
oldscot3 is offline  
Old May 27, 2014, 12:41 AM   #29
Justice06RR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 21, 2010
Location: Central FL
Posts: 1,279
Rick, if you like the Saiga, you are better off getting the partially converted version for around $630 instead.

Unless you specifically like the sporterized version of the Saiga and also on a budget.

But yes, the Saiga AK's are excellent rifles. Made in Russia and have chrome-lined barrels and a side scope mount. I have both the 7.62 and 5.45 Saiga's that are converted.
Justice06RR is offline  
Old May 29, 2014, 09:21 PM   #30
RickE
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2009
Location: Kirkland Wa.
Posts: 516
Thank you all for the input. I ended up with a Saiga "hunter" version. $499. Built in the original K factory. Visually quality look much better than about three other variants that I have seen. I am not looking to turn this thing into a "true AK", but anything that actually adds to the function is always an option. I did buy, and "tweek" a few 30 round mags to fit. Screw the 922r, just like our tax codes, you need to a "fing" Attorney to figure what is legal.
RickE is offline  
Old May 29, 2014, 10:48 PM   #31
tahunua001
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 21, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,396
no more than 10 foreign parts. slap in american magazines and an american furniture set and it'll be legal.
__________________
ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar.
I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein
You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin
Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.
tahunua001 is offline  
Old May 30, 2014, 09:06 PM   #32
RickE
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2009
Location: Kirkland Wa.
Posts: 516
original poster

I'm not sure I will dance to the 922R. A 30 round mag on this version? Really? let them come for me. The whole rule makes NO sense!

Last edited by RickE; May 30, 2014 at 09:13 PM.
RickE is offline  
Old May 30, 2014, 09:25 PM   #33
tahunua001
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 21, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,396
it does make no sense, but I would be careful who you broadcast your intentions to. this forum does not condone or foster sentiments that encourage the disobedience of laws, no matter how arbitrary, idiotic, or unnecessary we think they are.
__________________
ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar.
I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein
You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin
Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.
tahunua001 is offline  
Old May 31, 2014, 09:42 PM   #34
reynolds357
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 10, 2012
Posts: 2,423
922R is really pretty simple. Basicly, it prohibits you from using imported parts to turn a compliant rifle or shotgun into one that is banned from import. My understanding is that you can use as many foreign parts as you want, so long as you do not build a rifle that would be illegal to import.
Having said all that, I dont really care because the only semi-autos I build or modify are Ar variants and I use good ole USA made parts. I keep them all to myself, I dont re-sell them.
reynolds357 is offline  
Old June 3, 2014, 11:27 AM   #35
Duzell
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 30, 2011
Location: Monterrey/hayward
Posts: 739
still a dumb rule
__________________
If zombies, i have gone for big guns, will return soon !

Firearms Project(s): TM15 WIDOW(C), AR10 DRK WYVERN
Duzell is offline  
Old June 6, 2014, 09:18 PM   #36
RickE
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2009
Location: Kirkland Wa.
Posts: 516
Obviously the "hunting" version is compliant. But... if I am plinking with a 30 round mag, I am in violation? The mag must be us made? Add US parts and it makes a difference? Very confusing at best. The IRS must have been in the room when the rules were cast.
RickE is offline  
Old June 6, 2014, 09:28 PM   #37
tahunua001
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 21, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,396
no the fact is that it has to be russian made and 10 round or less capacity because adding an american made would constitute "assembling from parts a rifle illegal for import". you have to keep the rifle to ten foreign made parts or less(from a specific list of parts) if you want the high cap mags.
__________________
ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar.
I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein
You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin
Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.
tahunua001 is offline  
Old June 15, 2014, 12:37 PM   #38
RickE
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2009
Location: Kirkland Wa.
Posts: 516
Ok, so the Saiga sporterized version I just got has less 10 (or less) foreign parts? If they used us parts to bring the number down, which parts are us made?
RickE is offline  
Old June 15, 2014, 01:00 PM   #39
tahunua001
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 21, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,396
no the sporterized version is just not banned from import because it's not "assault" configuration. if you start adding "scary" features like high capacity mags and pistol grips then it becomes "assembling from parts a rifle banned from import".
__________________
ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar.
I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein
You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin
Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.
tahunua001 is offline  
Old June 15, 2014, 01:21 PM   #40
marine6680
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 24, 2012
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 1,477
Basically... You need to swap a few parts out before you can use 30rd mags.

There is a list of parts, containing things like, receiver, trigger, sear, magazine parts, etc...

Parts not on the list do not count.

Replace enough parts on the list with US made parts and the gun becomes legal to use certain features like pistol grips and high cap mags.
marine6680 is online now  
Old June 15, 2014, 10:12 PM   #41
FALshootist
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 24, 2002
Posts: 589
I had a Norinco AK that I bought for very cheap when the first were imported here. It worked great and was real accurate. But I never liked the safety and sold it for pretty good money after the 94 ban (error in judgment).

If you can find one you won't be disappointed. But for a few more dollars there is the second generation Sig 556R. I shot my friends and was shocked at how accurate it was, even with old surplus. If I need another 7.62X39 rifle this will be it.
__________________
"Iwoke up this morning and got myself a beer. The future is uncertain and the end is always near."
FALshootist is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.09955 seconds with 9 queries