The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old June 3, 2014, 09:07 PM   #1
Xfire68
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 31, 2010
Location: Communist State of IL.
Posts: 1,394
Drinking a Big Gulp of Blue Koolaide!

I found myself having to/wanting to process a large amount of military surplus 5.56 brass.

I am jumping in with both feet and getting a Dillon Super 1050. It has a swaging station built in and can be made automated by adding a motor if desired. Yes I know it's pricey but, I have a few 100,000 rounds of brass to process!

Looking forward to getting it up and running soon!

I also bought a Giraud case trimmer that arrived today!
__________________
NRA Life Member, SAF Member

www.bandmbrass.com Veteran owned Business.
Xfire68 is offline  
Old June 3, 2014, 10:00 PM   #2
Jay24bal
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 13, 2011
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 604
Man that is a lot of brass!!

Once you play with the new case trimmer, let us know how it is. While I do not have nearly that much brass to process (I usually do about 500-600 .223/5.56 a month), trimming is the one part of it that I can not stand and I am looking for ways to speed it up.
__________________
I like guns.

Once Fired Brass, Top quality, Fast shipping, Best prices.
http://300AacBrass.com/ -10% Coupon use code " Jay24bal "
Jay24bal is offline  
Old June 3, 2014, 10:21 PM   #3
jeager106
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 24, 2006
Location: N.E. Oh.
Posts: 349
I HATE trimming brass, especially in caliber we often shoot a lot like the
5.56/.223. I have probably 4K emptie mil type brass in that caliber.
I learned just last week that Xtreme Bullets will "buy" your brass or "trade"
for bullets.
Extreme makes good haevy copper plated bullets as well as hard cat.
The will take any brass they load for, i.e. 5.56, .38, .357, etc.
Might think about selling them my mil 5.56 brass & keep only the about 1K of commercial for reloading varmint stuff.
The only thing I hate more than trimming brass is removing the crimp from mil primer pockets.
Can't imagine decrimping hundreds of thousand of mil crimps.
__________________
Question everything.
jeager106 is offline  
Old June 3, 2014, 10:36 PM   #4
Xfire68
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 31, 2010
Location: Communist State of IL.
Posts: 1,394
Quote:
Can't imagine decrimping hundreds of thousand of mil crimps.
Well that is one thing about the 1050 that makes is "Super" LOL. It has a built in Swaging/crimp remover station.

I just did about 100 cases on the new trimmer to try it out. It is as fast as you can place the piece of brass in the trimmer hole and add some slight pressure. No shavings as they are collected inside where the trimmer head is.

I am pretty impressed with it. This trimmer also chamfer and deburrs the case at the same time.

I am pretty sure I could trim more per hour on the dillon press but dillon's trimmers do not chamfer and deburr the case although I don't think it is a absolute necessity.
__________________
NRA Life Member, SAF Member

www.bandmbrass.com Veteran owned Business.
Xfire68 is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 04:38 AM   #5
nemesiss45
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 6, 2014
Posts: 336
I need a trimmer like that. I am working through about 1k .223 100 at a time and I am already sick of it, lol.
nemesiss45 is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 09:59 AM   #6
rox
Member
 
Join Date: October 4, 2012
Posts: 55

Quote:
I also bought a Giraud case trimmer that arrived today!

I'm sure you'll love the 1050 - especially with that much brass to process. But I don't think anything can compare to trimming with no additional time or manual effort (i.e. by using the Dillon RT1200). For me this is where the 1050 really shines, and I only process at most a few thousand at a time. The cut is free of burr, and you can mitigate the need to chamfer by putting the tiniest amount of flare/bell on the mouth, which gives an even smoother lead-in than a cut chamfer and can also help to align the bullet perfectly square into the seating die. Don't get me wrong - the Giraud is a great tool, but I wouldn't want to manually trim 100k pieces manually with any tool.

..
rox is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 10:11 AM   #7
chiefr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 27, 2010
Location: AR
Posts: 1,170
Prepping mil brass has always been a PITA.
There are some lots that have the primer so heavily swaged your decapper will punch a hole in the primer.
I recently prepped some 7.62NATO Lot: RA 67 and ended up trashing half.

Looks like you are right on track with your Dillon. Been a Dillon guy for over 30 years.
chiefr is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 10:23 AM   #8
Xfire68
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 31, 2010
Location: Communist State of IL.
Posts: 1,394
Thanks for the info Rox and Chiefr. I am pretty sure that I will end up with a Dillon trimmer on the 1050 at some point as time is important.

When I talked to a Dillon rep yesterday to be sure that I was buying the right press he informed me that they are coming out with a new more powerful motor/trimmer. RT 1500 and when it does come out I may have to put it on my short list. I was divided on if I should go with a Dillon setup from the beginning trying to keep costs down on my setup but it is what it is.

Ratdog22, I have no idea how it compares to the Frankford unit other than everything I have owned from Frankford has been cheaply made. The Giraud unit is made in America not China and is of incredible quality. The Giraud unit also cost 2x that of the Frankford unit.
__________________
NRA Life Member, SAF Member

www.bandmbrass.com Veteran owned Business.
Xfire68 is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 02:26 PM   #9
jmorris
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 22, 2006
Posts: 1,563
The RT1200 will last forever for most trimming and is more than powerful enough. The new trimmer is so you can trim a case down from .223 length to 300blk.

God bless your fingers if you think you are going to trim a few hundred thousand rounds with a Giraud. At least at any pace close to what a Dillon trimmer can do.

You are talking about attacking something like this.


With an electric pencil sharpener.
jmorris is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 02:56 PM   #10
Farmland
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 5, 2009
Posts: 853
For as long as I can remember I have been trimming those darn 223 cases by hand with a Lee hand held trimmer & drill. Great sitting time on the porch or even watching TV. I always did 1,000 at a time.

It got the job done and it took me two evenings. However it took much longer for my hands to recover. I even got rid of the primer crimp by hand.

No more I now have the Dillon Swage and trimmer. If I wasn't so darn cheap I would have bought both years ago and saved a ton of aggravation.

OK I will be honest my neighbor bought the trimmer and we just share but that is something great about having a close friend that shoots the same things and has the same line of equipment.
Farmland is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 02:56 PM   #11
Xfire68
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 31, 2010
Location: Communist State of IL.
Posts: 1,394
Well I have one box according to the weights listed. I have 2,700 lbs. As I stated above I will likely add the Dillon trimmer to the 1050 and yes .300 Blackout is what I am intending to use the new RT1500 trimmer for.

I ordered equipment that was at the time in my budget. My budget was "Adjusted" a few days ago and that is why the 1050 is being ordered.
__________________
NRA Life Member, SAF Member

www.bandmbrass.com Veteran owned Business.
Xfire68 is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 03:48 PM   #12
wogpotter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 27, 2004
Posts: 2,934
Now all you need is blue ice cubes to go with the blue kool-aid.
__________________
Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”?

Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”
wogpotter is offline  
Old June 4, 2014, 06:58 PM   #13
Xfire68
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 31, 2010
Location: Communist State of IL.
Posts: 1,394
Well it is official! I placed the order just now. Man does that hurt!!!!!!!!

Ordered the 1050 with .223 carbide dies, Spare Parts kit and a large pistol case feeder plate + shipping= $1890.84!
__________________
NRA Life Member, SAF Member

www.bandmbrass.com Veteran owned Business.
Xfire68 is offline  
Old June 5, 2014, 01:39 PM   #14
Nemsis
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 27, 2006
Location: Peoples Republic of Chicago
Posts: 386
Don't worry with all that brass it will pay for itself many times over.


Nice location by the way ;-)
__________________
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." --Norman Thomas
Nemsis is offline  
Old June 5, 2014, 08:36 PM   #15
Xfire68
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 31, 2010
Location: Communist State of IL.
Posts: 1,394
Quote:
Don't worry with all that brass it will pay for itself many times over.


Nice location by the way ;-)
I sure hope it does! Same to you on the location!
__________________
NRA Life Member, SAF Member

www.bandmbrass.com Veteran owned Business.
Xfire68 is offline  
Old June 12, 2014, 08:36 PM   #16
Xfire68
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 31, 2010
Location: Communist State of IL.
Posts: 1,394
It arrived today and I temp set it up in the garage.


__________________
NRA Life Member, SAF Member

www.bandmbrass.com Veteran owned Business.
Xfire68 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.10774 seconds with 9 queries