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Old March 2, 2014, 03:56 PM   #1
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Ordering from Brownell's

This post may be in the wrong section, but I want to make sure that my fellow reloaders take note.

Last week I ordered a batch of bullets from Brownell's online. They had customer service available via chat, and that guy gave me what turned out to be great advice, so I was pretty happy with them and thought I would be a return customer.

However, I have since discovered that I was really had.

I ordered 500 230gr 45 cal RN bullets made by SNS. With shipping it was $83.44

I since discovered that ordering the same thing direct from SNS would only cost $54.45, shipping included.

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Old March 2, 2014, 04:06 PM   #2
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Thats some bad shipping... like $20? A lot of gun related sites seem to have high shipping. Thats why I stick to midway when I can
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Old March 2, 2014, 04:22 PM   #3
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It wasn't just the S&H. The bullets were considerably more from Brownell's.
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Old March 2, 2014, 04:32 PM   #4
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How do figure that "you were really had"? Did they mis-represent
the product? Not tell you the price? Tell you one price and
charge you another? Add charges without telling you?

Ignorance on your part---not knowing what a current price on a
product is--is not Brownell's problem.

I buy a lot of stuff from Brownell's. Some stuff they are pretty much the
only source. Some stuff they have great prices on. Some stuff I can get
a better deal elsewhere---that stuff I do not buy from Brownell's.
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Old March 2, 2014, 04:53 PM   #5
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No, they did not mis-represent the product.
No, they did not mis-quote the price.

What they did do was charge way over market.
The other thing they did was lose what would have been a repeat customer over a few bucks.

So, yeah... caveat emptor. It cuts both directions.
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Old March 2, 2014, 04:59 PM   #6
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Ignorance on your part---not knowing what a current price on a
product is--is not Brownell's problem.
100% correct. What do you do when you buy a new car and find out someone else got theirs cheaper? It's your job to know what things are worth, not the sellers. Brownell's doesn't advertise that "we beat anyone else's prices". Brownell's offers a lot of things you can't get anywhere else and provide good customer service. They probably don't sell enough of those bullets to get a really great deal on them. I've found that most retailers don't sell bullets as cheap as the manufacturer does. Another good example is LaserCast bullets from Cabela's. They cost the same except LaserCast will ship free and Cabela's doesn't. I still buy a lot of stuff at Cabela's, just not LaserCast bullets. I shopped around and found this out.
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Old March 2, 2014, 05:27 PM   #7
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Always do your homework !!!

Yah,
I rarely buy anything without knowing the price up front and whenever possible, go shopping and get some price comparisons. Last week, I went shopping for an item and Brownell's was cheaper, including shipping, than Cabelas by just a few bucks. Decided on Cabelas cause I had some points I could use. I think in your case, I'd cut Brownell's some slack. ... ...

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Old March 2, 2014, 06:25 PM   #8
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What they did do was charge way over market.
I doubt they made more on the bullets but rather they paid more and are passing that cost on. I know how you're feeling, I've had the same thing happen to me but holding the seller responsible for what in reality is my fault is not the answer. An easy way to do a price check is to use Gunbot.net. You can sort the search results by price per unit.
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Old March 2, 2014, 06:58 PM   #9
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Gunbot is how I ended up there.

I am learning that gunbot and ammoseek only represent a handful of sellers, and they seem to have a bubble going on there.

Anyway, lesson learned on that one.

That was my first ever order of bullets.
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Old March 2, 2014, 07:19 PM   #10
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http://www.xtremebullets.com/category-s/48048.htm

http://precisiondelta.com/index.php/...et/45acp.html/

http://www.missouribullet.com/result...=12&category=5

All good choices.
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Old March 2, 2014, 07:52 PM   #11
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What they did do was charge way over market.
Based on what? There is no standard price for anything, some shops are more expensive than others and you should have done your research before buying.

That being said - I gladly buy (and sometimes pay more) from Brownells because I like that they have pleasant and knowledgeable staff members on hand to answer my questions. Good quality employees are hard to find and I dont have a problem paying for the extra service.
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Old March 2, 2014, 07:57 PM   #12
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I saw that exact box of bullets for $49.99 before tax at a local retailer. I passed on the deal because I like the Missouri Bullet Company cast bullets.

I generally wait until I need enough to make the shipping cost pay. Missouri Bullets will ship 2000 (4 boxes of 500) under 240 grain bullets for $14. They will ship 3000 or 6 boxes of under 150 grain bullets, same price.

http://www.missouribullet.com/index.php
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Old March 3, 2014, 12:38 AM   #13
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I like brownells for what they are, but excessive shipping bugs me. If I can ship 70lb of lead in a usps flat rate box for $13, there is no reason a high volume mail order company shouldnt be able to ship a 5-10# box of bullets for apreciably less. Not to pick on brownells, countless online retailers make up for their low prices with excessive shipping
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Old March 3, 2014, 10:46 AM   #14
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They do less shipping for smaller items and the fact that they do a flat rate no matter how large the order is good in my opinion. Buyer beware.
Not Brownell's fault that you didn't shop around and you never did state what the shipping charges were. I would assume it was their standard flat rate shipping charge.
I have a FFL on file with Midway. If my order is under $40 I pay an extra $4.00. If a non FFL holders order is under $40 they pay $3.00
I don't do a lot of business with Midway for that reason being they have stated that FFL holders do not get any special pricing anymore BECAUSE their prices are so low to begin with.
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Old March 3, 2014, 11:14 AM   #15
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Brownells often doesn't have the best prices.

But it is still often cheaper for me to buy all the parts I am ordering there than to order all the cheapest parts from the cheapest vendors when I consider one shipping charge verses multiple shipping charges.

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Old March 3, 2014, 11:21 AM   #16
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How do figure that "you were really had"? Did they mis-represent
the product? Not tell you the price? Tell you one price and
charge you another? Add charges without telling you?

Ignorance on your part---not knowing what a current price on a
product is--is not Brownell's problem.

I buy a lot of stuff from Brownell's. Some stuff they are pretty much the
only source. Some stuff they have great prices on. Some stuff I can get
a better deal elsewhere---that stuff I do not buy from Brownell's.
Exactly. I don't see how this is Brownells fault.
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Old March 3, 2014, 11:40 AM   #17
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Old March 4, 2014, 06:18 PM   #18
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So you screwed up a bit on your first ever bullet order. Stuff
happens. You learned a little lesson, and the tuition was only
around 30 bucks.

I've had a few of those "life's lessons" where the tuition was W-A-Y
more than $30
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Old March 5, 2014, 09:20 AM   #19
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So you screwed up a bit on your first ever bullet order. Stuff
happens. You learned a little lesson, and the tuition was only
around 30 bucks.

I've had a few of those "life's lessons" where the tuition was W-A-Y
more than $30
One of my father's favorite sayings used to be: "It costs money to go to school"

[edit] to clarify a bit: my intent here wasn't to whine about it, it was simply to give a heads up to other people shopping to pay attention when ordering from these guys.
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