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Old January 21, 2014, 11:56 AM   #26
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IMO: No matter what caliber you decide to buy. Its all about shot placement first and foremost. Why bother with a 300 anything when a 338 Win Mag is much better suited for heavy weight North American {dangerous} game. Don't underestimate the Bison. Their a pretty sturdy package of muscle mass and heavy bone. When you have the chance. Go to a zoo that has North American Bison examples to view. You don't realize how big they are until your up close and facing one. Especially a herd Bull.
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Old January 21, 2014, 01:04 PM   #27
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Here is a Buffalo hunt with a M94 30-30 and dropped it cold with a shoulder shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=054zbhXE9ms
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Old January 21, 2014, 01:33 PM   #28
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Here is a Buffalo hunt with a M94 30-30 and dropped it cold with a shoulder shot.
Yep, that was the way they hunted, not so much about what they hunted with. Back up a few hundred yards and shoot the 300 win mag and you still have a 30-30.
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Old January 21, 2014, 02:45 PM   #29
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9nSqnWuAC4

They don't say what they are shooting, at least I didn't hear it. But they were taking head shots. I was thingking 180 Barnes out of your .300 Win Mag through the lungs and if given the opportunity sending a second one. Looks like they need a front end loader to pick them suckers up.
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Old January 24, 2014, 02:45 PM   #30
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Why not a 30-06 with some 200-220 grain loads. Double Tap makes some heavy '06 ammo. Personally, I think 180 grainers will get the job done. 180s and 200s are generating very close to 3000 ft/lbs of energy anyway. The you'll have a rifle that's a bit more pleasant to shoot than the Win Mag. And you'll have a wide range of bullet choices on the store shelves.
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Old January 24, 2014, 04:42 PM   #31
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Believe that a .308 can take down a bison?
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Old January 24, 2014, 05:24 PM   #32
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Believe that a .308 can take down a bison?
If a 30-30 can drop one cold, a 308 is a no brainer. A 308 can take any big game in NA.
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Old January 24, 2014, 07:15 PM   #33
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from savagecornmuffin -- Why not a 30-06 with some 200-220 grain loads. Double Tap makes some heavy '06 ammo. Personally, I think 180 grainers will get the job done. 180s and 200s are generating very close to 3000 ft/lbs of energy anyway. The you'll have a rifle that's a bit more pleasant to shoot than the Win Mag. And you'll have a wide range of bullet choices on the store shelves.
The 180 grain bullet would need to be lead free (TSX, GMX, eTip, etc) in order to to get a good chance of opening the wound channel one would like for a quick take down. One could go as light as 165 gr in this design and probably do OK. A 190 - 200 grain partition or a 220 gr bonded bullet would probably do as well too.
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Old January 24, 2014, 07:24 PM   #34
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Yea, 165 Monolithic bullets are outstanding in the 06 - 308. They penetrate more than enough for large big game like Moose.
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