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Old January 14, 2014, 04:57 PM   #26
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I really love the product Ruger is putting out these days. I have a Ruger American in .308 and a Gunsite scout. Great rifles. I would love one of these only in .223:

http://ruger.com/products/HawkeyeVar...et/models.html

Here is a review:

http://www.realguns.com/articles/565.htm

I love the mauser action. Seems like a lot of rifle for the money also.
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Old January 14, 2014, 05:49 PM   #27
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That Sako is nice but I'd rather buy the Kimber 84M Longmaster Classic for $1200 plus optics.



Personally though, if I had a machinist buddy like you have I'd just rebarrel a M700 into what I wanted.
I love that gun. I have always wanted a stainless, varmint barreled rifle with a sporter walnut stock. Pretty much exactly what I am putting together right now with an inferior action.
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Old January 14, 2014, 06:24 PM   #28
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Whay kind of money are you willing to spend?
Barrett money?
Sako money?
500-800 money?
Less than 500?
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Old January 14, 2014, 07:29 PM   #29
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Ruger Gunsite Scout

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... As I look around... I kinda like the medium weight Ruger Gunsite, except for a couple things... the scout scope concept is lost on me, if the rifle is not set up to run stripper clips... I'm assuming the receiver is still drilled & tapped for a regular scope mount... also seems like there is not a lot of info on the Ruger site... is the magazine proprietary to Ruger, or is it an M1 mag ??? & are there shorter mags ??? my casual shooting is most often off sandbags, & I prefer as close to flush fitting as possible...
Bought one of these about a year ago. It has turned out to be a great little rifle. To answer your questions. The rifle comes with everything needed to mount a scope conventionally. The rear peephole site comes out and a ring attaches in its place. The magazine is proprietary to Ruger. The rifle comes with a steel 10 round mag. Ruger also offers steel 5 and 3 round. There is also a polymer mag option that comes in 10, 5, and 3 rounds and are wider and thus shorter. See attached picture. I'm not positive, but I think that I read the polymers can be filled with a stripper clip.

Just this week I finally mounted a "scout" scope on mine so I cannot comment of the usefulness of the forward mounted optic just yet as I haven't made it to the range. Just messing around with it in the house. It seems like it might make target acquisition a little easier and you can achieve a very wide range of view being able to keep both eyes open.

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Old January 14, 2014, 08:56 PM   #30
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Really like my Savage. Very nice tack driver. I bought it new at Walmart for $349.00 ... in 1996 (and spent $1,000 on the scope).

They may be a little more than that now...


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Old January 15, 2014, 02:57 AM   #31
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Trigger643:

The is a jaw-dropping spread! Well done!

As for the Ruger Gunsite Scout: What a cool-looking gun!? Not sure if is what the OP needs (is it heavy-barrelled?)but I like it a lot!

Although I still heartily recommend the CZ 550 Varmint, I can see it has stiff competition in terms of the workmanship on offer out there: some great looking rifles. Yum.
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Old January 15, 2014, 11:58 AM   #32
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As for the Ruger Gunsite Scout: What a cool-looking gun!? Not sure if is what the OP needs (is it heavy-barrelled?)but I like it a lot!
Yeah, not positive it is what he is looking for either. Just thought I would chime in and answer the OP's questions. I don't know that the barrel would classify as "heavy." I've seen it classified as "semi-heavy," "heavy" or read that people didn't like it because it didn't have a heavy barrel. Honestly, it never worried me enough to take the time to look into it. The only thing I can really add is that I've gotten 10 rounds (one full magazine) 1-1.5'' groups at a hundred yards all fired rather quickly, maybe 10 seconds between shots; fired standing. The barrel was pretty warm but not too hot to touch. Since I never see me needing to fire that many rounds at one time. I'm completely satisfied.

I know that the gun is plenty accurate for me out to 225 yards with just the irons (although the front post is a little wide for anything more than that). And now that I have a scope mounted, I can't wait to see what it will do.

BTW. Trigger643:

That is a very nice looking lineup. First thing I thought when I saw it in a driveway was, "I wonder if any neighbors were outside when this was taken."
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Old January 15, 2014, 12:20 PM   #33
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I have a Ruger gunsite rifle. And just love it. The open sites or as accurate ss my eyes will let me be. I put a 2x pistol scope, that I just hsd in my safe, mounted as forward as I could and got about 4 inch groups at 100 yards. As soon as I get the money I sm going to buy a weaver 4x scout scope for it. Wanted to shoot a texas hog with it this year but none presented it self to me.
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Old January 15, 2014, 03:14 PM   #34
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What ammo are you using armed librarian?
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Old January 15, 2014, 04:21 PM   #35
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Surplus that my LGS had on sale. It's 7.62 NATO from Brazil. Not sure of bullet weight or anything. I can check later today once I get home if you want. Part of the reason why I like this rifle so much is it eats everything I give it and shoots it reliably and accurately.
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Old January 16, 2014, 01:20 PM   #36
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1 - 1.5" at a 100 yards standing is an outstanding group especially considering 10 shots. Most people could not reproduce that off a bench with bags with match ammo.
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Old January 16, 2014, 01:47 PM   #37
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I have been thinking along the same lines though my caliber choices are a bit wider as anything that shave the 30-06/308 case works for me.

Basically I want a nice accurate bolt action rifle and capable of shooting 5 shoot groups (most sports rifles are good for 3 but wander past that).
Budget is under 1k.

Currently 100 yds but it could get out further if a new range works out.

Looking at the options it seem like the 243 W, 260 Remington and 308 all share the same case and powders as 30-06 (which is what I shoot the most of and I reload).

While I really would like a 30-06 heavy barrel those do not exist.

On the other hand the listed ones do and various sniper, tactical, varmint, heavier barrel target types.
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Old January 16, 2014, 03:05 PM   #38
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1 - 1.5" at a 100 yards standing is an outstanding group especially considering 10 shots. Most people could not reproduce that off a bench with bags with match ammo.
I feel like a bit of an idiot. I meant to type 2-2.5". I have gotten tighter groups from a bench and less rounds. But I was most impressed by how close that many rounds stayed.

When I bought the ammo the guy a the counter was bragging about how good of results he had gotten with it. Coincidently the same store is now selling the same ammo for almost double the price.
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Old January 16, 2014, 03:08 PM   #39
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I was going to say lol. 1.5" groups for 10 shots is remarkable.

trigger643, which one is your favorite?
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Old January 16, 2014, 06:54 PM   #40
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Here is my suggestion. The Remington Model 700 SF has a heavy, fluted barrel, and a decent trigger. The stock is good for bringing the rifle home, not so good for precise shooting, but it keeps the cost to around $900 tops, out the door.

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...armint-sf.aspx

Here's a couple of respectable stocks, if you like the vertical grip and can live with a fiberglass or laminate stock:

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet...ctical-/Detail

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet...rt-Long/Detail

You can get the Hart stock with an aluminum bedding block and pillars for about $350 including shipping, but pillar bedding the LRT will work fine, maybe better.

I have a 700 Varmint SF, and it consistently shoots under 1/2" 5-shot groups at 100 yards. A very good shooter for the money, and being a 700, you can dress it up any way you want.

The 5R is another great choice if you fit the HS stock.

These 700's are durable and very accurate, with the right shooter at the controls!
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Old January 16, 2014, 07:12 PM   #41
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I'd look for a tang safety 77V.
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Old January 22, 2014, 08:12 PM   #42
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I'm kinda in the same boat less the wood stock- I'm seriously considering getting a remington 700 sps- for the detachable mag- and upgrade the stock to the whisky-3 chassy system.
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