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Old October 28, 2013, 07:33 AM   #1
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wadcutter erosion

It was posited by the garrett company website i believe that when a semi wadcutter hits a target/animal that the the shoulder of the bullet will erode into what was hit.

SO if this is perfectly true and accepted over the place, ive seen other places and writers mention, at what impact velocity would a full wadcutter dissapear?
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Old October 28, 2013, 08:06 AM   #2
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It was posited by the garrett company website i believe that when a semi wadcutter hits a target/animal that the the shoulder of the bullet will erode into what was hit.

SO if this is perfectly true and accepted over the place, ive seen other places and writers mention, at what impact velocity would a full wadcutter dissapear?
What?!! Your question is not very clear. However, a wadcutter shoulder will be worn away (minute particles left behind in its path and the Sharp edge dulled), from the bullet, but when the entire bullet would be worn away is a moot suposition...no handgun has the ability to achieve the velocity to enable a lead wadcutter bullet to penetrate that far in an animal or target media. Nevertheless, I am sure that if a wadcutter bullet re-entered earth's atmosphere, it would erode, and completely burn-up on re-entry.
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Old October 28, 2013, 11:34 AM   #3
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It was posited by the garrett company website i believe that when a semi wadcutter hits a target/animal that the the shoulder of the bullet will erode into what was hit.

SO if this is perfectly true and accepted over the place, ive seen other places and writers mention, at what impact velocity would a full wadcutter dissapear?
HUH??¿¿ Please re-state your question, I don't understand---------!
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Old October 28, 2013, 11:37 AM   #4
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"Erode into"? I don't think so. I've read, and believe that when a SWC bullet hits flesh the flat nose disrupts the flesh, pushing it away from the shoulders. On paper, a SWC will cut holes with the shoulders much like a full wadcutter, but a SWC is much more accurate at distances than a wadcutter.

Here's a bunch of bullets impacting hard surfaces;

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...-kurzzeit-com/
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Old October 28, 2013, 12:21 PM   #5
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Nevertheless, I am sure that if a wadcutter bullet re-entered earth's atmosphere, it would erode, and completely burn-up on re-entry.
If I were to get into reloading, where would I find data to load for that particular round?
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Old October 28, 2013, 04:42 PM   #6
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ok so its easier to understand.

assume your bullet is .358 diameter with a .344 diameter projection.

they say that the ENTIRE shoulder will erode away upon contact, and that the bullet will end up being the .344 diameter and look like a truncated cone style bullet.

Now at what point is it possible for a FULL wadcutter to erode to nothing?

I didnt mention for handgun or rifle..
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Now at what point is it possible for a FULL wadcutter to erode to nothing?
At the same point where there are so many angles dancing on the head of a pin that the universe implodes. Nonsensical question, nonsensical answer.
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Old October 28, 2013, 05:30 PM   #8
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Old October 28, 2013, 05:37 PM   #9
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I've seen the meplat of 45 SWC's ground down after penetrating the shoulders and spine of a 450+ hog. Looked like the nose of it had slammed into sand with fine gravel in it.

It would take impractical, unheard-of velocities to vaporize a 44/45 SWC on normal size game.
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Old October 29, 2013, 12:47 PM   #10
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I don't think a bullet "erodes". Some bullets will "shed" pieces of bullet material due to expansion, hitting bone, etc., but "eroding" is a term that just don't fit the situation...

But, if you pushed a wadcutter to 3,984 fps, and it traveled 47.862" into a flesh type target, I don't think you'd find much left of that bullet
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Old November 1, 2013, 06:20 AM   #11
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precognition?

No.

Also, I have personally learned that I can state what a bullet may do; I cannot state what a bullet will do. Ay?
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Old November 2, 2013, 01:29 AM   #12
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So I was sitting around the other day smoking like 5 joints you know one after the other when my orbital sander attacked me, I didnt have any loaded ammo on hand so I just held up a .45 lc bullit to protect myself. Fended off the attack for 39 seconds until the bullit was eroded down to nothing...hope that helps.
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Old November 2, 2013, 04:53 AM   #13
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Steel targets erode the heck out of my boolits.
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Old November 2, 2013, 01:14 PM   #14
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I've read that around 1,000 FPS lead bullets it will start leading the barrel, so by the time you get to the needed velocity to erode a WC to nothing your barrel will be a lead pipe.
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Old November 5, 2013, 08:26 AM   #15
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they say that the ENTIRE shoulder will erode away upon contact, and that the bullet will end up being the .344 diameter and look like a truncated cone style bullet.
Would you point out where in their website that they make that statement? I can't seem to find it.
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Not sure who Garrett is. Do they make bullets? What make them experts on bullet performance?
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Old November 5, 2013, 12:02 PM   #17
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Old November 5, 2013, 12:02 PM   #18
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I've read that around 1,000 FPS lead bullets it will start leading the barrel, so by the time you get to the needed velocity to erode a WC to nothing your barrel will be a lead pipe.
Not true. I've shot plain based bullets in my revolvers, .357 and .44 Magnums, to over 1100 fps many times...
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