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Old June 16, 2012, 10:00 PM   #1
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Brass Frame

(New and improved and posted in the right forum this time!)

I was over at Cabela's today after finally running out of CCI #10 caps and poked my head in the Elmer Keith museum. Somehow I hadn't noticed this revolver before - I guess I forgot to look up.



It's a brass-framed .45-70 that Century Arms made for him. Hold on tight!

Here are a few others that were in the same area:


A Colt's Dragoon


Baby Dragoon


Colt's Navy


Colt's Richards conversion

Love those grips on the last two.

Sorry for the picture quality - all I had was my cell phone.
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Old June 17, 2012, 02:02 AM   #2
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Thanks for the pics! The Cabela's near my home has a little museum too but I haven't really looked around it, will have to check it out more in depth next time.
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Old June 18, 2012, 12:47 PM   #3
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thanks for the photos! I love that 1860 Richard's conversion. My Cabellas in Dundee has a neat gun library, but nothing like Elmer's stuff.
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Old June 19, 2012, 08:41 PM   #4
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Yep!!! Think you for the pics Hardcase. Those are some cool pistols. We don't have any stores like that here. So you brought it to us. I like them all, but that dragoon is my pick. The Colt 51 don't seem to have much of a front sight on it dose it?
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Old June 20, 2012, 09:30 AM   #5
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If you are ever around the Bass Pro home store in Springfield, Missouri, take a look in their "fine guns" room.
My first time in there they had a double barrel 450 rifle made for Queen Elizabeth's uncle(He never took possession). Beautiful wood and a loading kit all enclosed in a luggage style carrying case.

I don't remember the exact numbers but they were asking some over $400,000.

The walls are lined with extra fine guns.

Good for a drool trip.
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Old June 20, 2012, 10:03 AM   #6
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The Colt 51 don't seem to have much of a front sight on it dose it?
I think it's just a trick of the light. It's got a regular sight on it, I think.
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Old June 20, 2012, 02:29 PM   #7
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Standard 51 Navy brass cone.
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Old June 21, 2012, 12:32 PM   #8
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Dumb question. Why did Century Arms make their rifle chambered revolvers with bronze frames? Does it have anything to do with elasticity, meaning so the frame can stretch and return to normal? I noticed Elmer Kieth's century and it brought the question back up to me. I don't believe they were brass, but some kinda bronze designed for extreme pressures. Why not use steel? maybe because steel breaks and bronze stretch's?
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Old June 21, 2012, 02:06 PM   #9
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As it turns out, the revolver is indeed bronze, not brass, which makes a lot more sense.

I don't know why bronze over steel. Each gun was made to order, so perhaps it was a machining thing. Or it just could have been made to look different. There's anecdotal evidence from Google searches that the frames stood up pretty well to commercial .45-70 loads, so I guess that strength wasn't an issue.

By the way, although it's hard to tell from that picture, it's a very large handgun.
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Old June 21, 2012, 02:45 PM   #10
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Yes sir, I've seen them at stores and gun shows. A lot of used ones. Appears people bought them and then couldn't handle either the recoil or the payments they took out on personal loans 'n' such.
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Old June 21, 2012, 03:34 PM   #11
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Never understood what anyone wanted with a 45-70 handgun. I mean how maney rounds would a person think they could fire out of such a gun? I know today we have ways to controle recoil but such a shell in a short bbl handgun don't make no since to me.
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Old June 23, 2012, 12:42 PM   #12
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Yes, I had the same question when I first heard of Century Arms. And most of the rounds were old-timey, like 45-70, .50-70, and rounds similar. I just wonder if they were [are are] trying to carve out a niche in the market.
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Old June 24, 2012, 11:04 AM   #13
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It would make sense to have a shoulder stock on a 45-70 revolver - as well as having it magna ported. That gun will pound a person to pieces but remembering Elmer Keith's articles, he was a glutton for recoil. He must have developed problems like Mel Tappan did. Mel was man enough to admit the follies of his youthful magnum diet.
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Old June 24, 2012, 09:11 PM   #14
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Dumb question. Why did Century Arms make their rifle chambered revolvers with bronze frames?
Being heavier than steel, at least the bronze frame would add some weight which would help to dampen some of the recoil.
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Old June 25, 2012, 04:44 PM   #15
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makes sense, now I can file that question away as answered. Thanks.
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Old June 27, 2012, 07:27 AM   #16
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That Century Arms 45/70 ,if I remember correctly, is some sort of steel alloy.
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Old June 27, 2012, 11:11 AM   #17
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The one in the picture is a bronze/manganese frame with a steel barrel and cylinder.

It really piqued my curiosity, so I did a little research. At one point, the waiting list for the Model 100 was on the order of 10 years - they were made by hand, to order, by one gunsmith at Century. 35 years ago, the price was in the neighborhood of $600. They only made 500 or so.
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Old June 27, 2012, 12:15 PM   #18
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I'd sure love to watch somebody else shoot one!
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Old November 5, 2013, 03:27 AM   #19
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Century model 100 45 70

Hello to all : I just returned from a 3 day GUN SHOW in Spokane Washington and was able to trade for a CENTURY Model 100 45 70. YES it is a big one and I have been trying to trade for this revolver for over 3 years and it MINE now. Well to day my son and I took the Century out for a rang run and it was a BLAST. I shot Hornady 300gr jacked and Buffalo arms 405gr lead, both were babies. I even shot the Century one handed 6 times. A 5 pound revolver took up 80% of the recoil. I have several S&W 500s and I reload 700gr lead rounds in it and you have to wipe the snot off your face after you are done. So if your looking for a BIG, HUGE revolver the CENTURY si worth looking at and mine is not for sale. I'm going after a Whitetail and a Bear next year.
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Old November 6, 2013, 02:24 PM   #20
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Bass Pro in Springfield, MO now has the NRA collection of fine and historic guns. My son and I budgeted 2 hours to go thru it and were sadly disappointed. By hurrying we got to see maybe half.
Some great guns including the Lewis and Clark air rifle.
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Old November 6, 2013, 04:39 PM   #21
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Very Cool!!!



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Old November 7, 2013, 02:07 PM   #22
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Awesome guns. Love seeing these old guns, thanks for posting.
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