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Old September 20, 2013, 07:30 AM   #26
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Old September 20, 2013, 09:32 PM   #27
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Right, Mike about the .38 S&W not having heel bullets. Now my problem is to figure out just what those were. They were copper washed Winchester bullets, had the "step" seen on the heel-type, and a bulge at the middle that miked about .377-.380. I certainly remember loading them into a Navy Colt.

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Old September 22, 2013, 09:45 PM   #28
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They might have been for the original .38 long colt, which did have a heeled bullet as originally loaded in 1877.
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Old September 26, 2013, 12:24 AM   #29
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There are several fellers that make moulds for the heeled bullets, Old West Bullet Moulds is one that I used, and I also have one from Sweden- I can't pronounce the name or remember it, but they make the nicest moulds I've ever seen.

The problem with heeled bullets isn't finding the bullets themselves- the problem is crimping.

The best way that I know how to is with a Lee FCD (collet style) modified to fit the caliber that you need to crimp. I used one for .35 Remington on my .38 Long Colt- I just made an extension to my shellholder out of some round bar to the correct length and viola- I have crimped "outside lubricated" ammunition for my pair of Lightnings!

Lee can only make these collet crimp dies so short, so you may have to find one in the closest caliber to what you can use and go from there, like I did.
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