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Old June 12, 2013, 03:03 PM   #1
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Zastava M88: Considering it. Reliable after a few hundred rounds?

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I'm considering a Zastava M88, which are available for less than $300 new. This all steel model seems to require break-in. Does anyone know how reliable it is after a few hundred rounds? Anyone ever had one? I'd like to avoid the issues I had with my 1911, which I never would have bought if I had known what I know now.

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Old June 26, 2013, 11:49 AM   #2
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Anyone?

Anyone ever have one of these?
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Old June 26, 2013, 03:54 PM   #3
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See here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334378

for example: "I bought a zastava m88 last week. It was between a keltec p11 or the m88. looking for something that was under 300 dollars that wasn't a hi point. the last hi points slide broke in half in me. The keltec didn't feel right in my small Asian hands. Trigger was too long... Etc but the zastava felt like a glove. I took it to the range and shot about 200 rounds of various 9mm. Wwb, remington umc, and federal champions. The zastava ate everything I gave it. barely any recoil. No misfeeds. No jams no nothing. Trigger was fine for me. Some complained it was too heavy but felt okay. I even dropped it in the snow. Picked it up, loaded it, and bang bang. No jams or nothing. Best 260 bucks I spent. baby tok ftw!"
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Old June 27, 2013, 03:38 PM   #4
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thanks

Thanks for the thread link.
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Old June 27, 2013, 06:44 PM   #5
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You're welcome. I wish that I could do more, but I have no personal experience. If you get it, follow up with your findings. I know that I'll be interested to read what you say.
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Old July 2, 2013, 01:30 PM   #6
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The same gun goes for 350-400$ in my country
Even though there are many other 9mm hi cap options available, people still love this one
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Old August 23, 2013, 11:04 PM   #7
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@CurlyQHoward:


The August 2013 issue of Gun tests gave the M70A a low rating. The trigger is too heavy at 10.4 lbs. They considered trying to get it down but decided not to. It cannot be carried hammer-down due to their being no half-cock position. Then, with it chambered and the safety on, the safety has to be pushed up, rather than vice-versa. Gun tests also dislikes the magazine disconnect.

All that is a bummer considering it is a thin single-stack, not heavy (the M88 version), and aesthetically appealing (to me, anyway). I guess a 'smith can get the trigger down to 5 lbs or so. I don't know if it has a firing pin block in case something hit the hammer in condition 1. If it doesn't, that's a flaw.
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Old August 24, 2013, 07:07 AM   #8
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My M70 has had reliability issues so far. My trigger breaks around 8 lbs which I really wouldn't mind if it was reliable but to date it just hasn't been. I'll keep putting some rounds through it to see if that changes going forward......
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Old August 24, 2013, 10:48 AM   #9
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@plouffedaddy: Are you using fmj to break it in? How many rounds have been through it so far?
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Old August 24, 2013, 04:10 PM   #10
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Yes. About 200.
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Old August 24, 2013, 05:54 PM   #11
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@plouffedaddy: Gun Tests said it has rough/sharp edges inside. Those should smooth out as you get more rounds through it. Hopefully, it'll stopping jamming with another couple of hundred rounds though it.

I'm curious if a 'smith can get the trigger down to about 5 lbs.

If you can, keep us posted. Good luck.
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Old August 24, 2013, 07:56 PM   #12
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Might be apples/oranges, but I just came back from the range with my Zastava M57, which chambers the Tokarev 7.62x25 round.

Very pleased with it.mjust ran 50 rounds thru it, but it performed perfectly, and very accurate for me.

Mine was a milsurp, and it took a while to de-glop it, but in a challenge between it and a CZ52, I ended up liking the Zastava better.
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Old October 27, 2013, 02:10 PM   #13
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Any other experiences or hearsay?
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Old October 27, 2013, 02:35 PM   #14
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I have the M57A, the new commercial Tokarev in 7.62x25. I have only put about 100rds through it (because I don't want to open the sealed spam can of ammo I have, yet).
Worked perfectly, and accuracy was great. Trigger is heavier than the 1953 Romanian Tok I have, but that one has had 60 years of trigger pulls.
Gun tests objections don't much matter to me...pushing up the safety is easy, and I doubt I would carry this pistol chamber loaded/hammer down.
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Old October 27, 2013, 05:19 PM   #15
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7.62 ammo availability

"I have the M57A, the new commercial Tokarev in 7.62x25."


Concerns of future ammo availability has made me shy away from the 7.62X25, though I guess if imports dry up, domestic manufacturers would make it if there's demand.
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Old October 27, 2013, 06:55 PM   #16
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Concerns of future ammo availability has made me shy away from the 7.62X25, though I guess if imports dry up, domestic manufacturers would make it if there's demand.
I've used quite a lot of new production 7.62x25mm from Prvi Partizan (Serbian), Sellier and Bellot (Czech), and Winchester... and it's all ran 100%, no problems.

http://www.ammonow.com/handgun_7.62x...ev_page_1.html

FWIW, I have the Zastava M70 in 9mm... Aside from the terrible safety mechanism (which I never use) it has run 100%. My accuracy with it is nothing to write home about but, for the price, I've been happy with it.

Thing is, if you can get up to the $400 range in 9mm, there are a few more quality choices there.
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Old October 28, 2013, 04:58 AM   #17
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What kind of firing pins do these have? Are they still full length, like a Tok, or have they been modernized with an inertial pin?
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