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Old May 28, 2013, 04:23 PM   #1
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What did I find?

Well, for my first post thought maybe to start with a pic of something I found in my back yard today. It is slightly (didn't weight as scale is at other house, currently moving) heavier than my solid block of range lead (36#). I can scratch it with my knife, handle is definitely molded into block.. when I tap on it and my current block, they KINDA sound the same.. ish.. A friend of the wife's who works around lead a lot (safety inspector or something like that) said it looks like a lead block.. It did kinda cut easy, but not as easy as the range lead.. What does anyone else think maybe?
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Old May 28, 2013, 04:26 PM   #2
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Couple more..
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Old May 28, 2013, 04:27 PM   #3
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Last one..
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Old May 28, 2013, 04:36 PM   #4
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I was inthe neighborhood the other day and I dropped that. I need you to send it back to me.

OK?


Just kidding, looks like lead.
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Old May 28, 2013, 04:47 PM   #5
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definitely lead, can't imagine what it was for though, other than maybe a counter-weight for something. How big, and how much does it weigh?
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Old May 28, 2013, 04:58 PM   #6
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4 3/4 x 4 3/4 x 9 3/4 inches.... don't have my scale here yet, but guessing between 37-40#'s... it's slightly heavier than the block of smelted range lead I have.. that weighs 36#. Was thinking possible counter weight, but it has wide flat handle shaped to carry, not a wire or cable like I would think for counter weight. The top is indented, and I am thinking for its size and rough weight it must be hollow... but I don't know.. weird thing is it was just sitting on the back porch... by the railing.. (we just moved in about a week ago..)
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Old May 28, 2013, 05:09 PM   #7
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Well, if I'm figuring this right, if that were lead, it would weigh something like 85-90 pounds.

Your dimensions come out to 220 cubic inches. Lead weighs 0.39 pounds (6.24 ounces) per cubic inch.

That's at least 85 pounds.

Could be Vanadium or Gallium.

Actually, it literally COULD be vanadium, in theory. It matches your description on weight estimates per cubic inch.
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Old May 28, 2013, 07:56 PM   #8
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A counter weight for a "strapped" stage curtian .

Strapped is a term used for the electric motor asm .

Theres 1,2 or even more on each side to assure the "strapp" stays tite.

I overhauled a gear box for a church 1 time .
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Old May 29, 2013, 07:53 PM   #9
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Weighed it today, with bathroom scale.. but came in at 51.5 lbs . So its either not lead, or hollow ....
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Old May 29, 2013, 11:08 PM   #10
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Judging by the pic it`s hollow .

Gnaw some off & melt it , then pour it into a mold & lets see what it looks like !
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Old May 29, 2013, 11:36 PM   #11
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Thats my plan. Will be couple weeks though. I'm out of propane, and heading out of town for vacation.. will cut a chunk off upon returning and try to melt it up!
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Old May 30, 2013, 02:17 AM   #12
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Nnniiice! It probably is lead. If it's hollowish then the weight would be right in there. You probably have about 1500 bullets there!
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Old May 30, 2013, 07:04 AM   #13
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It probably is lead.
Albeit not "pure" lead. I would suspect home-melted wheel weights for hanging on the front of a farm tractor...but just a guess.
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Old May 30, 2013, 10:37 AM   #14
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It's ironic that the day before, I think, I had just read were couple guy's found a ton of lead bars in an old garage, someone found a bucket on side of road.. and I was thinking to myself, must be nice!! Won't get too excited till I try and melt her down and pour some up though... lol.

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Old May 30, 2013, 10:53 AM   #15
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For target round's, from what I have found out on here, not pure would be better, maybe add 1-2% tin solder for better fill out? I know barrel fill out is key, hardness comes in sec, slightly. No, I don't have a hardness tester. Did finish reading Lee's modern reloading, sec ed.. and actually was wondering on that..

Most on here, and everywhere else for that matter says fit first, and keep velocity down and work up.. But for most part in Lee's book, he say's it isn't really velocity that hurts the boolit, or causes leading, but too much chamber pressure. Start with a lower pressure and work up till accuracy declines/ leading starts.. and the "type of pressure too.. a quick hitting spike of chamber pressure would or could not get boolit to seal well, deforming boolit, whereas not enough won't make base of boolit form fit barrel.. Chapter 10 in his book was a real good read!
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Old June 1, 2013, 09:31 AM   #16
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BOAT mooring anchor would be my best guess.

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Old June 1, 2013, 02:32 PM   #17
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If you can scratch it with your thumbnail it's soft lead and will need hardened.
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Old June 1, 2013, 04:55 PM   #18
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No, can't scratch with thumb nail, only knife. Also, I tried to drill it out to see if hollow, and it is very hard and only little, lite flakes ribbon off.. I tried to drill out my block of range lead and bit dug right in, thick heavy ribbons came right off.. so now I really don't know what I found.. for as far as I could drill in it doesn't appear to be hollow now, but will try again with better bit soon. I will try and post pics of shavings... And of course once I get some more propane I will try and melt it too.. but couple weeks for that.
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Old June 1, 2013, 05:04 PM   #19
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Here are some pics of the shavings.. Round block is range lead..
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Old June 1, 2013, 09:54 PM   #20
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Well this just gets more and more interesting! I guess you are gonna have to melt it and see what temp makes it liquid.
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Old August 11, 2013, 07:52 PM   #21
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It is a kinifler bearing counter weight for the old Fordson tractor of the 40's used on the three point hitch--I casted many of them in my day.
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Old August 11, 2013, 08:56 PM   #22
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Put a small shaving in some muretic acid , if it fizzes it`s zinc, lead or tin will have O reaction .

Please use precautions useing/handling muretic acid !!
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Old August 18, 2013, 05:17 PM   #23
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I am confident that this is the inner lining to a functioning flux capacitor. Pretty rare.
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Old August 20, 2013, 08:56 AM   #24
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don't know what it is, but i know i want it. you could have the only vanadium bullets in town
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Old August 21, 2013, 11:19 AM   #25
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I still haven't had a chance to refill propane yet, but figure it isn't lead... the little shavings I got from trying to drill it, I put into my cast iron pan and put in fire pit one night while enjoying a fire... they never melted, but just kinda shriveled up and withered into a dust... This is why I never got my hopes up that it was lead, but would still like to know what it is now!!!
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