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Old August 13, 2013, 08:51 AM   #26
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You have time to Email Frank and tell him what you want.

I may get one in silver to match my EBR
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Old August 13, 2013, 09:15 AM   #27
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I got one of the CASM scope mounts when he first started the different color anodizing.
They do a very nice quality job of it.
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Old August 13, 2013, 02:01 PM   #28
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Awesome, I'm getting green now.
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Old August 13, 2013, 02:15 PM   #29
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Awesome, can't wait to see it completed.
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Old August 14, 2013, 03:24 PM   #30
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Yes the SCAR 17 should never be picked up!!! The price isn't bad when you compare it to a high quality M1a. IMO due to the imported low quality parts the Springfield Armory offerings just don't make it out of the range toy class.
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Old August 15, 2013, 06:08 AM   #31
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Awesome, I'm getting green now.
Excellent news... Congrats!! Anxious to see pics and get a range report.
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Old August 15, 2013, 06:18 PM   #32
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Yes the SCAR 17 should never be picked up!!! The price isn't bad when you compare it to a high quality M1a. IMO due to the imported low quality parts the Springfield Armory offerings just don't make it out of the range toy class.
My range toy took down a 200lb Georgia 10 point, will eat anything I feed it without exception, and is accurate enough for my purposes. IMO it's not good forum etiquette to refer to someone's $1500 rifle as a range toy. Weight and optics mounting were my primary reasons for considering the SCAR, not reliability or accuracy, in the end it wasn't worth sacrificing a proven rifle for a relatively new one with a short track record. Just my $.02





And, yes Smoky, I'm anxious to put the old gal in a new dress and take her out for some fun! I'll keep y'all posted,

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Old August 15, 2013, 08:22 PM   #33
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Tucker, if you plan on continues use of the EOTech I urge you to order the scout hand guard with your Blackfeather. This will position the optic as low as possible.
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Old August 15, 2013, 08:47 PM   #34
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I'm debating that, I kind of want to move it rearward to balance the rifle better, but it just looks plain goofy mounted over the action, so much so I cease to enjoy looking at my rifle. I may go with the SHG or the CASM-EX because I'm also thinking about a magnifier.
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Old August 15, 2013, 08:48 PM   #35
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If this was solely a hunting purposed rifle and I wanted a semi-auto, I would get a BAR or Benelli R1 plus far superior optics of my choice in a slimmer, lighter package for the same or less money as the two systems you are considering. Just my 2 cents. And, yes, I am an M1/M1A lover, so don't get me wrong.
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Old August 15, 2013, 08:51 PM   #36
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It's more of a Do Everything rifle, range, hunting, plinking, SHTF. I'm also toying with the idea of doing 3-gun with it.
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Old August 15, 2013, 09:09 PM   #37
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Got it.
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Old August 16, 2013, 06:30 AM   #38
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Inside a hundred yards the EoTech is awesome. I been running a 512 on one and a 555 on the other before I sold a few rifles. There was mention of changing the location of your sight and I just want to throw in what I found... My ARMS18 is SO low and the EoTech fits perfect but it is very close to the op rod as it cycles. Ever now and then brass will catch between the 512 and the op rod when it comes into battery. For that reason I am converting to the CASM scope mount with the peep hole which raises the EoTech up by about a quarter inch. Should solve that issue, fer good.


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Old August 16, 2013, 06:44 AM   #39
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Here's a pic of the rifles I sold a while back. The CASM mount is on the bottom rifle and as you can see it is about
the same height as the M25 rail of the top rifle wearing the EoTech 555. I miss those two rifles.... Scary accurate.

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Old August 16, 2013, 07:59 AM   #40
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Smoky,

I've heard of that issue with the ARMS18 before, I've been wanting one but that's my only reason for staying away from it, that and it's nearly $200. I think I'll probably go with the standard CASM and see if I can squeeze a magnifier on there. Slightly unrelated but has anyone tried the EOTech 552 with the BDC for .308? Thinking about selling my 512 to pay for that.
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Old August 16, 2013, 09:07 AM   #41
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.308 BDC EOTech with 4X magnifier.

Very heavy and the BDC reticle looks HUGE @ 4X.

Sold it.

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Old August 16, 2013, 09:58 AM   #42
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The optic itself is heavy or the Troy stock? It looks the same as my 512
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Old August 16, 2013, 10:13 AM   #43
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The optic & magnifier combo is bulky and heavy. The MCS is also heavy, but that's another story.

If I were to run a magnifier on my Blackfeather I would see if the magnifier would fit on the CASM "RD" pictured below. Maybe an Aimpoint twist mount would work... the EOTech out front on the SHG may require a riser to line up with the magnifier, but that should be easy enough to do. This set-up would leave the bolt accessible, reduce eye relief issues and allow you to top off your mag with stripper clips.



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Old August 16, 2013, 07:45 PM   #44
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Good to go, thanks SR420. I may just forget the magnifier then and upgrade to the .308 BDC EOTech.

Hey I'm sure you have experience installing a new muzzle device on M1As, think you could send me a link to a good walk through for putting one on? I'm considering a coast guard muzzle break.
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Old November 20, 2013, 12:10 PM   #45
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I know this thread is pretty old but I finally have an update on my Blackfeather, after 3 months and a Govt shutdown waiting on the ATF the paperwork is finally in and the stock is in the mail, should be here tomorrow or the next day. I have since sold my EOTech and replaced it with a Burris MTAC/Fastfire III combo, going to wait to post pictures once it's all together. I'm also trying to order a vented handguard from JAE in OD green to match.

Can't wait to put some pics up, stay tuned!
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Old November 20, 2013, 05:02 PM   #46
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I know this thread is pretty old but I finally have an update on my Blackfeather, after 3 months and a Govt shutdown waiting on the ATF the paperwork is finally in and the stock is in the mail, should be here tomorrow or the next day.
Congratulations! I am looking forward to you pictures and range report.

I ended up selling my Blackfeather stock to the actor that played Shughart in Black Hawk Down. He (Johnny Strong) is a big fan of the M14, and owns a few of them.

My Blackfeather was replaced with a Gen II Rogue bullpup conversion kit. It's pounds heavier than the 'RS" and it lacks the refinement you get from M14.ca, but it's supper short, and I can hand cycle subsonic ammo quickly with the left side charging handle which I had welded to the op rod.

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Old November 21, 2013, 03:25 PM   #47
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Tucker, I'd keep your M1A. If you put that much work and love into your gun, it's just the saddest thing to invest into a whole new system that might satisfy you, but you'll probably end up tinkering with it, too, with not a whole lot of gain. Imagine, you'll have to buy all new mags and components with the 17. However, if your M1A doesn't run the way you want it, move on. But my general rule is, if it's reliable, keep it.

Also, those M1A stocks look pretty sexy. I've always been waffling with buying a 7.62x51. To me, the ammo is too expensive, but I am a super cheapskate (when it comes to ammo, anyway, I spend a lot on my guns).

NOTE: Wow, sorry for posting! You guys have already talked this issue around. I didn't realize how old this thread was. Cool stocks for the M1A, though! Glad I looked at the thread.
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Old November 21, 2013, 04:19 PM   #48
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I plan on getting a M1A Scout in the near future, but honestly I am just going to keep it plain jane, original stock and no optics. But there are a few other options for stocks.

You could go with the Vltor



Or the Troy industries stock

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Old November 21, 2013, 06:11 PM   #49
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Aww nuts...

My Blackfeather came in today... I was excited for about 3 minutes... Then confused... Now I feel like someone has peed in my Cheerios, kicked my dog, and ate my birthday cake all in one.

I think my M1A might have a genuine USGI receiver, which don't get me wrong Im somewhat happy to learn it might possibly not have been made in Brazil, but it has a longer connector lock pin that does not fit flush with the receiver and prevents me from dropping the action into the stock. Here's a pic,



Can I get the civilian size lock pin? Or will I have to cut the original down some?
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Old November 21, 2013, 06:34 PM   #50
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Tucker can't help you with the current dilemma but that's a darn good looking rifle and thanks for updating the thread with the progress and decision making process.
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