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Old June 19, 2013, 06:08 PM   #26
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I've been puzzled at the instant acceptance the .40 received. It went from newfangled cartridge to ubiquity seemingly overnight.

I'm not putting it down, mind you, but I've never understood what properties it possesses that made it such a superior choice to the .45 ACP, particularly when the .45 is loaded with 230 grain pills.
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Old June 19, 2013, 06:50 PM   #27
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No opinion on the choice[both,either, neither], but if you go with the .45 you should be able to easily trade the .40 supplies with someone. Both are very popular for reloading.

The FNX line sure seems nice, nice grip. I'm hoping a local range adds one to their rental line-up so I can try one out first.
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Old June 19, 2013, 07:20 PM   #28
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Either way you decide it won't matter, because...

if you are like most people, you will not stop at having just one gun.

Having only one firearm will seem just plain wrong after a while. You are going to buy another gun sooner or later after your first gun. And if you doubt what I say, then let's see what other folks say. Maybe start a new thread and ask folks how many of them own just one gun and aim to keep it that way?

BTW I started my collection about two and a half years ago - I've purchased 13 different firearms since then. Nothing in a .40 caliber..not yet anyways.
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Old June 20, 2013, 07:04 PM   #29
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Of the 2 with the gun type you are considering, I'd say go with the 45. The only thing the 40 has over the 45 is usually capacity. If I am not mistaken though the FNX-45 is a double stack 45 which means you will have more than just the 7 or 8 shots you would in a 1911.

This is completely opinion based though... I am partial to the 45 over the 40, but I prefer 9mm over both, just as a bit of background.
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Old June 20, 2013, 07:44 PM   #30
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I've seen the FNX-45 deliver some outstanding out of the box accuracy. It seems to shoot straight with whatever you feed it, too.
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Old June 20, 2013, 07:53 PM   #31
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With the ammo situation being what it is, I'd get the pistol I had a lot of components for.
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Old June 20, 2013, 07:57 PM   #32
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I love both cartridges. When it comes down to brass tacks, neither one has any measurable performance over the other for personal defense with the exception of mag capacity. The level of silliness is astounding when hearing both sides of the argument.

If you're torn, I would pick the .45. I'm only assuming you're not experienced in reloading. If so, I can't stress enough my opinion is learning with .45ACP is far more forgiving of mistakes than .40SW.
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Old June 20, 2013, 10:29 PM   #33
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You don't have to firewall the 40, Shane. It's still a dandy cartridge as a 850 fps reload. I've been loading range pick-ups at that level for 8 years with good reliability, accuracy & no negatives whatsoever.

Well, one. 40 cases are a lot harder to find in the grass
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Old June 21, 2013, 05:50 PM   #34
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.45acp is more fun to shoot and since you'll be reloading the cost will be close to the same.
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Old June 21, 2013, 06:02 PM   #35
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I guess I'm in the 45 camp. I had a 40 and it was snappy. My 45 is nicer to shoot. I traded the 40 down to a 9.
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Old June 21, 2013, 09:24 PM   #36
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I ahve the FNP .45 in dark earth. It is probably my favorite gun even though it is a tank and my hands are not that big. The grip looks like it is huge but is amazinglu comfortable and easy to shoot. FN's customer service is amazing to boot. Durring a class I got a bad round (case rupture ) and itblew up in the gun. Mag blew out and decock lever came off but all I felt was a slight sting. Gun still functioned perfectly and when I sent it back for repair FN sent me an entirely new gun and complete new shooters pack with it no charge at all.
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Old June 22, 2013, 07:49 AM   #37
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"If you are a serious shooter, and it sounds like you are, you'll have a .45 sometime, and a 9, and a carry gun, and a mouse gun, and a couple revolvers, and... "

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Old June 22, 2013, 08:22 AM   #38
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.45ACP is my pick.

If you, for whatever reason, have your heart set on the 40 S&W, go for it.

If you get into firearms, you'll probably have several calibers.

If this is your FIRST handgun, don't start with either until you have mastered the fundamentals using .22LR.
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Old June 22, 2013, 11:28 AM   #39
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45 acp is more pleasant to shoot in most platforms but the 40 S&W is easier to find these days and a little less expensive. Go 40!
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Old June 22, 2013, 12:20 PM   #40
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.40 or .45? Pick one, it doesn't matter in the long run all that much.
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Old June 22, 2013, 04:01 PM   #41
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Old June 22, 2013, 07:31 PM   #42
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I notice that 40 is easier to find on line and in stores. Does that indicate that the market place is making a decision about its utility?
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Old June 22, 2013, 08:13 PM   #43
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I notice that 40 is easier to find on line and in stores. Does that indicate that the market place is making a decision about its utility?
Kind of seems like it. The cops in my area went back to 9mm not too long ago.
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Old June 22, 2013, 09:53 PM   #44
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Don't know if the .40S&W is on the wane. It doesn't seem to stay on shelves here. Maybe that's a regional thing.
Might stay on store shelves because production is high due to its use by police and fed.
Or it might stay on shelves in regions where government uses a different cartridge.
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Old June 23, 2013, 02:32 AM   #45
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Between .40 and .45, personally, I would pick 45. I have owned handguns in 9mm, 40, and 45 and am issued a 40 for my duty weapon and I just don't like 40. I know a lot of people who like 40; it’s just not for me. I feel like the round has a sharper snap to it both in recoil and muzzle rise than either 9mm or 45. Also 45 ACP is relatively forgiving for a new re-loader. I started reloading 9mm and branched out to 45 shortly after and I would take 45acp any day. I have also heard and personally seen that the 40 is a bit harder on guns than some other calibers. In contrast that 45 has a slower, and more deliberate recoil cycle, that I feel recoils less upwards with the barren and straighter back. Personally I have chosen 9mm as my go to round, and here is why. I feel that, in general, most handgun rounds are poor man stoppers, to do this job properly and with authority I feel you need a rifle. This being the case I chose 9mm because it has mild recoil and muzzle allowing me get my gun on, and keep it on target faster and more easily. Also 9mm gives me the largest capacity, generally 2-3 more rounds that 40 and 4-7 more round than 45. Also 9mm is a round that my wife feels much more comfortable shooting, meaning she is more willing to go shooting with me, and would be in a much better and more comfortable place to use it, God forbid she ever had to. And most importantly I can actually enjoy shooting it, the recoil is mild and I can shoot it all day long without worrying that my hands are going to be sore or tired. To each their own, pick what you like and have fun! My next purchase will probably be either a Ruger SR1911 in 45acp, or a Ruger GP 100 in 357mag, probably the 1911 as I miss the 1911 I had to sell to pay bills a couple years back.
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Old June 23, 2013, 08:33 AM   #46
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I agree with those who point to a fairly sharp recoil with the .40. My vote goes to the .45.
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Old June 23, 2013, 10:37 PM   #47
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I would get the 45 period. I shot 40 and didn't like the recoil of them
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Old June 23, 2013, 10:49 PM   #48
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I have never had a problem easily controlling the .40 S&W recoil as well as any other caliber. I think the weaknesses of the caliber are vastly overstated online.

This is not to say the other posters aren't being straight with you. If their experiences differ from mine, that's just as valid. My only point is that you should get to a range and shoot for yourself rather than taking the word of others. If you find .40 easy to shoot well like I do, it's cheaper than .45 and comes with higher capacity.

Amusingly, I grew up shooting .40 and .357 magnum almost exclusively, so when I shoot 9mm I'm actually a bit worse with it. It's a creampuff recoil wise, but the more 'pop' recoil impulse (not strong, but unique) is different enough from .40 that I actually shoot .40 faster, it being the recoil impulse I'm much more used to. Sometimes I wonder if the "snap" 9mm shooters complain about in the .40 is just a similar manifestation of lack of familiarity.

I do prefer 9mm and smaller in small frame/pocket guns. There I can notice a small difference in 9mm's favor.

Get to a range and try some guns.

I've also always been somewhat confused by folks who say that the advantage of a 9mm over .40 includes capacity, and that the .40's small diameter increase doesn't matter, but those same folks don't count that advantage the .40 has over the .45. What's more, the capacity difference between .40 and .45 is the same or greater as the difference between 9 and .40. For instance, in the Beretta PX4 line, the 9mm holds 17, .40 holds 14, and .45 holds 10. In the M&P, the 9mm holds 17, .40 holds 15, and the .45 holds 10. In the Glock, the 9mm holds 17, .40 holds 15, and .45 holds 13. The list goes on, but in most cases the capacity difference is the same or greater.

It seems that, to be consistent, either capacity trumps tiny diameter increases or it does not.

This, of course, sets aside the recoil impulse for argument's sake.
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Old June 24, 2013, 06:07 AM   #49
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I would agree that the 9mm is creampuff recoil wise, although I would not necessarily phrase it that way. The low recoil and easy shootability of the gun, for me, makes it a lot more enjoyable, I don’t have to fight the gun as much as others. I have owned and shot larger and much larger guns, and my issued duty weapon is actually a G22, through which I have put thousands of rounds downrange during training, although probably not as many as you, and have qualified as expert with it every time. I would not say it is necessarily difficult to control over all, but I would say it is more difficult that 9mm, and, for me, a smidge more difficult that 45. But like you said, he needs to go shoot both guns before he makes the call, everyone is different, to each their own.
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Old June 24, 2013, 06:15 AM   #50
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45 here as well. Buy it and start having fun. The 9 would be my second choice. Never have been intrested in the 40.
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