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Old June 15, 2013, 07:26 AM   #1
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More kids in trouble.

According the the NRA-ILA, and The Daily Caller, another 7 year old Maryland kid was suspended for the "nefarious act of shaping a breakfast pastry into what his teacher thought looked like a gun" was reported. When an attorney got involved, and took it to the school board, they refused to expunge the suspension. This, folks, is who we are handing our children over to, every day, for their education.

Also, Sen. J. B. Jennings proposed a bill to stop schools in Maryland from doing this, and evidently, it didn't go anywhere, but the kid did receive a lifetime NRA membership/

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/ar...ero-sense.aspx

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/13/su...n-kids-record/
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Old June 15, 2013, 08:56 AM   #2
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Once upon a time, if a person displayed his/her lack of common sense on a more than *very* occasional basis, he or whe would likely be excoriated and treated as a contemptible clown. Nowadays? It's considered a prerequisite for public and/or political office. Sad.
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Old June 15, 2013, 10:01 AM   #3
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This is why, if possible, whenever I have kids of my own, they'll either be home schooled or be sent to a private school. The pitiful state of the US public school system seems to make kids worst off in terms of education anyways.

Most schools seem more concerned with their foot ball teams and such rather than actually providing a quality education for kids. The lack of a decent salary for quality school teachers is evident of that.

It's indoctrination and brainwashing, that's what it has come to sadly. They're purposely brainwashing kids to think that guns are evil and something that needs to go away, that the 2A is archaic and inapplicable in a "civilized" world. It's up to us to stay vigilant, dispel such thoughts in our children and fight this kind of behavior where ever it rears its ugly head. Frankly, this whole "Zero tolerance" BS has completely supplanted basic common sense. Sad that I have to live in an America where "Common sense" isn't so common anymore.
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Old June 15, 2013, 10:59 AM   #4
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Same sort of thing happened here a couple of years ago. A 4th grade boy had a small birthday party at his school and handed out small gift bags. The boys' gift bags had a small plastic pistol in them. Teacher didn't do anything but a parent complained and really went off at a school board meeting.

The kid's gift didn't violate any school rules at the time but the board changed the rule to not allow any kind of gun as a result of the complaint. I felt sorry for the kid and his parents. They did not violate any rules but were made to look like some sort of terrorists.
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Old June 15, 2013, 01:45 PM   #5
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On Sunday night, I'm going to carefully eat my grilled cheese sandwich into the shape of a FIREARM ... just as a matter of protest. I know it won't make the news, I know it won't get some poor kid "un-suspended" ... but what the heck!
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Old June 15, 2013, 02:00 PM   #6
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Re: More kids in trouble.

Kimio. Your ideas on private or home schooling are well stated. However as the father of 3 I can tell you the cost and logistics of either option is not as simple as the statement.

My boys are both shooters and my 8 yr old hunts with me. His school (public) discriminates against talk, action or writing that indicates a weapon. This has caused his teachers issues as they have asked the kids to write about their weekend or what the dads did. My oldest has several times told them he cannot participate in the assignment due to school policy. In response the school has allowed him to write about hunting and shooting limited to specific assignments.

What worries me more is my kids safety. And because of that I am looking into options to place them in private educational environments .
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Old June 15, 2013, 04:07 PM   #7
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In reality, if a child is censored about talking or writing about a hunting trip, in my opinion, the school is breaking the 1st Amendment, as they are abridging free speech. Most likely they are breaking some same amendment or article of the states constitution too.

What I find truly appalling, even repugnant, is that the US Government will allow pornography and worse, to be printed, ruling in their favor on free speech, but they will abridge a child's right to free speech, at a school, over writing about their dad taking them hunting.

My guess is, that the attorney involved, in Maryland, will have to take it through the court system, to get this overturned, and that will most likely cost more than the parents can afford.

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Old June 16, 2013, 12:10 PM   #8
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Too true Josh, which is why I stated, if possible. My cousin and one of my best friends was home schooled up until high school, they were so far ahead of the other kids in terms of academics it was absolutely mind boggling.

However, I'm a person that tries to look at things realistically, and if I'm still doing what I'm doing now as a career, then I'll likely not have that option sadly, unless my wife is a stay at home mom (and is willing/capable of home schooling our children).

In the event that my child has such an issue as yours, I hope that by me civilly conversing with the teachers and the school principle, I'll be able to come to some sort of arrangement with them. Being from AZ and currently living in UT, we have some pretty friendly government employees working in both our offices and schools. Though the actual proficiency of our schools academic practices are still very poor when compared to the rest of the country.

In the grand scheme of things however, it's still outrageous that a child can't even TALK about firearms let alone have anything remotely resembling one in school. Idiocy and lack of foresight at its finest IMHO.
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Old June 16, 2013, 03:54 PM   #9
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kimio, we home educate our sons and both are into shooting sports. I can say for certain the logistics are only made difficult in certain states of the country and mindsets. Given that you are from Utah, and the law there states you only need to notify of intent to home educate, the process is only as difficult as you make it. I would suggest researching the various styles of home education. As well as taking a look at the HSLDA website. Also the book "Teach your own." by John Holt is a great place to start getting an education on how easy it can be. You have to open your mind and see things in a different way than you and I were "indoctrinated" into believing was how education works. You'll be amazed at what kids can accomplish when you let them take a leading role in their learning experience.
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Old June 16, 2013, 04:09 PM   #10
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The theory and practice of education is a good topic -- for some other board. Since this isn't really about civil rights any more... closed.
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