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Old June 11, 2013, 11:07 PM   #1
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Jammed up Beretta 92

A buddy of mine was shooting my Beretta 92 FS at the range today and while I was busying myself with a 1911 he managed to jam the thing.

The slide is about 1/2" back from being fully forward and the the slide and barrel are about 1/8" from being properly locked up. I can move the slide back and forth about 1/16" but I can't get it any further forward or back.

I can see brass in the chamber and the extractor is snapped over the rim. I don't know if it's a live round or an empty case that failed to eject. If I can find my dental mirror and fiber optic flashlight I'll figure that out (but not before).

I can operate the decocker/safety. The mag dropped with no issues. I can also turn the takedown lever. The hammer is fully cocked.

I can see the "wings" of the barrel locking mechanism thanks to the open top slide design and they appear to be what's stopping the slide from moving more than 1/16". There is solid metal ahead and behind them. I tried gently pushing them up and down with a thin screwdriver while releasing the forward pressure from the slide but no joy.

Anything else I can try? I could drop it at my LGS if I can't get it unjammed but maybe shipping it back to Beretta would be better? I don't want to ship it if there's a live round in it though...
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Old June 12, 2013, 12:30 AM   #2
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Did you try mashing in the rear of the extractor, to disengage it, and then trying to pull the slide back?
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Old June 12, 2013, 04:05 AM   #3
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dn,

I had a similar thing happen with my pistol and it ended up being a broken locking block. I was finally able to align the broken pieces enough to get the slide to move and disassemble the gun but it took three hours. I also had trouble telling if the round in the chamber was live or not and had to look down the barrel via a mirror (it ended up being a fired/ not-live brass case in the chamber). I'm sure other more knowledgeable people will be along shortly to help out. Good luck.

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Old June 12, 2013, 04:11 AM   #4
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Checking the barrel

If you want to find out if the round is fired, try using a straw, pencil, or other long object. Insert it down the muzzle, and see how far it will go. You can use that to guage whether or not there is a bullet in the chamber/barrel.
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Old June 12, 2013, 07:01 AM   #5
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It's loaded so be careful.

I'd hit the primer with WD-40 several times and let it sit overnight. The WD-40 should deactivate the priming compound.

Then I'd clamp it in a padded vise and place a piece of wood against the top of the slide. Whack it with a mallet.
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Old June 12, 2013, 07:16 AM   #6
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I thought of a broken locking block, too, and I'm hoping its not it. It's possible the cartridge is crammed into the chamber somehow, but it will probably be unfired if it is, or a burst case, etc., if it isn't. Personally, I've never saw a block fail on these, but have heard of them doing it. One would think they should be able to handle the stress of regular 9mm ball ammo, similar to the P 38.
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Old June 12, 2013, 09:23 AM   #7
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I'll figure out if the round is live or not when I get home tonight. I'll see if I can get the extractor off the round too.

I hit the primer with some WD-40 last night but can't be sure that enough will leak into the case. I made a "hammer mitten" out of some plastic foam so the hammer can't drop.

My buddy was shooting some cheap "factory reloads" that he found on the Internet so I wouldn't be too surprised if a case failed.
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Old June 12, 2013, 08:37 PM   #8
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I'd clamp it in a padded vise and place a piece of wood against the top of the slide. Whack it with a mallet.
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It only took a few light taps. The round was live and it had a thoroughly bulged case that only got a little more than half way into the chamber before it jammed.

My friend has about 1,900 more of these rounds. I think he found the cheapest "factory reloads" available on the Internet (a little over a year ago) and stocked up. He won't be putting any more through my guns...
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Old June 15, 2013, 01:05 AM   #9
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I've never had this in a 9mm but occasionally I get it in 40. I reload and sometimes I miss a bulged case and jam a gun. My 96 and xd have had their fair share of this over time. Most of the time tho I've slipped a flat head screw driver in the ejection port and gave a slight pry on the slide and barrel. That always works. If I get lucky ill grip the gun and push against the wooden bench on the front of the slide and get it. But usually there to tight to get that way.
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Old June 15, 2013, 11:41 AM   #10
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Another victory for the folks at the Smithy Forum!
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