The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: General Handgun Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old June 2, 2013, 01:18 PM   #1
M14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 22, 2006
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 110
Which Handgun

After many years of not having a handgun, I've decided on owning one again. I'm bewildered by all the different choices especially in the semi auto realm. If I go semi auto, I would be looking for a home defense gun. I would want as cheap as I could go without having a jamomatic.

If I went revolver, I'd like a compromise between home defense & a trail gun.

I'd appreciate any suggestions for either.
__________________
Strangers in the night exchanging tracers.
M14 is offline  
Old June 2, 2013, 01:28 PM   #2
lamarw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 12, 2010
Location: Lake Martin, AL
Posts: 1,650
With your criteria (inexpensive and not a jamming machine) I would suggest you check the feel and if you can shoot a Sig P250. The only possible hic-up is if you are OK with the DAO trigger with a long pull. You can get it in sub-compact, compact or full size. It comes in various calibers of your choice. I own them in both 9mm and .45 ACP.
lamarw is offline  
Old June 2, 2013, 01:32 PM   #3
Lost Sheep
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 24, 2009
Location: Anchorage Alaska
Posts: 2,965
Thanks for asking our advice. Help us help you.

What do you shoot now and what handgun(s) did you have before? Did you like what you had before and why (or dislike and why)?

We would be shooting in the dark and just listing OUR favorites without knowing anything about you.

Picking a gun for someone else is like picking a spouse for them. Difficult even i you know the person well.

Thanks for asking our advice. Help us help you. Hand size would be a good start.

Lost Sheep
Lost Sheep is offline  
Old June 2, 2013, 01:51 PM   #4
big al hunter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 12, 2011
Location: Washington state
Posts: 924
Ruger makes some decent, shoots every time autos.http://www.ruger.com/mobile/products/13009.html

They also make some decent revolvers.http://www.ruger.com/mobile/products/1707.html

You can find them for less on the used market. Check pawn shops and your lgs for trade ins.

Personally I would go with the revolver. But I also have a Ruger P89 in 9mm that I enjoy. If you plan on having a sidearm for protection in the great outdoors the 357 mag is a better choice for penetration on scratchy bitey critters.
__________________
You can't fix stupid....however ignorance can be cured through education!
big al hunter is offline  
Old June 2, 2013, 01:59 PM   #5
M14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 22, 2006
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 110
My Handgun History

In the past I've owned both semi autos (all were single action (Browning HiPower , 1911 Colt) except one single & double action M39 S&W) & revolvers (mostly N frame S & W's). I have big hands. An N frame S & W feels really good.

Thanks,
Cork
__________________
Strangers in the night exchanging tracers.
M14 is offline  
Old June 2, 2013, 02:22 PM   #6
Nathan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 1, 2001
Posts: 1,883
Cheap, good compromise between SD and trail??

I like the S&W 13, 19, 65, 66, 38/357mag in a 4" barrel

Or, Charter Arms 5 shot 2.5" barrel 44 special

Both would be my choices. I might have to restart my Charter Arms search!
Nathan is offline  
Old June 2, 2013, 05:00 PM   #7
22-rimfire
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 19, 2005
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 4,591
Quote:
I'm bewildered by all the different choices especially in the semi auto realm. If I go semi auto, I would be looking for a home defense gun.
There are certainly a lot of choices. I would suggest a Glock semi-auto in either 9mm or 40 S&W. I prefer the middle sized Glocks such as the M23 in 40 S&W. Hi Points are probably the least expensive. I hear they are a good value and generally are reliable, but I have no actual experience with them. Any of the Rugers would be a good choice.

In a revolver, you will pretty much end up paying more for the good ones. My suggestion there would be a mid sized steel framed gun like the S&W Model 10 (38spl) which can be found used in very good shape. The Ruger GP-100 is an excellent choice as well in probably a 4".
22-rimfire is offline  
Old June 3, 2013, 12:24 PM   #8
Black Eagle
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 26, 2013
Posts: 3
I would suggest Glocks! Less expensive than that, Rugers. The Ruger p95 can be had in my area for 300$, 15 round 9mm mags, da/sa trigger and option for aftermarket sights. The GP100 or SA Blackhawk are great. But get a .40 cal Glock used for like 400-450$, spent 300$ on Lone Wolf barrels and extra mags and own the 3 caliber Glock. That's value.
Black Eagle is offline  
Old June 3, 2013, 12:30 PM   #9
Black Eagle
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 26, 2013
Posts: 3
Forgot to drop my $.02 about Hi-Points. Have owned a .380 &.45. Only problems were with the .45. Blowback operated is picky about pressure levels in reloads, most factory was fine. Then broke the firing pin. Keep it clean. More of a knock around gun, if I am using that term correctly, Would only trust my life to it if I had to, absolutely!
Black Eagle is offline  
Old June 3, 2013, 01:43 PM   #10
TailGator
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 8, 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,968
The Beretta PX4 lineup is also a very good value in being a well-made pistol at a moderate price. You might add it to the fondle list if you don't mind the thumb safety.
TailGator is offline  
Old June 5, 2013, 02:18 PM   #11
BigJimP
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 23, 2005
Posts: 11,227
Stay with what you know ...and like..../ but in handguns these days, often you get what you pay for...there is a lot of "junk" out there, if you go cheap.

N frames.....model 27's or 28's in S&W in .357 mag ....and probably look at the L frame model 686's as well. To me, a 4" barrel in an L or N frame fits the bill for defense - and would be the compromise you're looking for / with a 6" being more of a trail gun in my view. Prices are all over the map on S&W revolvers....but there are still a lot of guns out there at a good value...you just need to shop for older models.

In semi-autos ...Colt is making 1911's again and doing a nice job and they're affordable / or even on the lower end of many of the 1911's out there. You can get 1911's in most any caliber you want these days ....but 9mm and .45 acp are probably the most popular.

Some other semi-autos you should probably shoot - to see if you like the grip angle and the controls and the triggers....are a variety of the Sig Sauers....( 226's are their full sized model ) - Sigs are built solid, but have features that you may not realize like decockers, DA-SA triggers, etc...so spend some time looking at them / but I'd also suggest you at least shoot the Springfield XDM's - grip angles are real similar to the 1911.

For affordable ammo in a semi-auto stay with a 9mm. Caliber is often debated on this and other forums ...but its about shot placement / not caliber.
BigJimP is offline  
Old June 5, 2013, 11:19 PM   #12
JimmyR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 4, 2012
Posts: 1,006
If this is for a home defense weapon, I would probably lean towards a revolver in either .357 or 44 Mag, 3"-4" barrel. Personally, I chose to get a 357, so that I can take it to the range and practice/plink with .38 specials. Besides, from the tone of your post, you do seem to have a soft spot for a good wheel gun. A used S&W N frame or even possibly a used Ruger 6 series might be about right for you.
JimmyR is offline  
Old June 6, 2013, 07:04 AM   #13
4V50 Gary
Staff
 
Join Date: November 2, 1998
Location: Colorado
Posts: 16,620
Trail gun? I'd go with a GP 101 in .357 magnum.
__________________
Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. Molon Labe!
4V50 Gary is offline  
Old June 6, 2013, 07:25 AM   #14
kahrguy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 1, 2012
Posts: 561
m-14 Buy the high point in 45acp if dollars are tight. A basic model can be bought for 170 bucks and they are +P rated. There not pretty but work well. Use a +p heavy bullet for trail defense and a federal guard dog ammo for home defense. The guard dog ammo looks like a flat nosed fmj and feeds well but is a hp soft point design made to expand very well . Because of its design it does not pass thru but a couple layers of sheet rock too. Light bullet at high velocity. Then pick up a good Dt , BB or corbon load for the tail. Its all you need till you can come up with enough funds for something both lighter and higher capacity.

A 357 is a great cartridge but not the best choice as a indoor home defense cartridge lots of flash and LOADEST cartridge you can pick!!?? Reload with 38 sp for home?? OK It will indoors with a 357 load screw up what hearing you have quicker than any other cartridge except for a 30carbine or the new 22 tcm load. The 44mag is a great hunting cartridge but not a friendly to carry in a normally heavy revolver or friendly to shot in the light weight revolvers and both well cost you more to get in to. Not Needed unless you have attacking moosies and grizzlies or plan on hunting too.
kahrguy is offline  
Old June 6, 2013, 07:46 AM   #15
KyJim
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 26, 2005
Location: The Bluegrass
Posts: 7,474
For relatively inexperienced handgun owners, I usually recommend a revolver. While they can malfunction, they do so at a lower rate than semi-automatics. They are more tolerant of indifferent maintenance. They are also simple to operate during times of stress.

I would recommend a revolver that can handle .38 special +P loads. About all modern .38 spl revolvers can do so. With the right type of round, they are effective in home defense. Yet, they do not present real problems with recoil or muzzle flash.

You mention use as a trail gun. For anything but defense in a bear attack, a .38 spl +P load is also fine.

For cost savings, I would recommend a police trade-in revolver. There are some available at Bud's Gunshop for $279. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...lice+Trade+Ins. You may find something similar at a local store or other on-line dealer. Police trade-ins tend to have exterior wear and maybe some scratches. However, they are almost always in good shape mechanically. A lot of officers are not "gun guys" and only shoot enough to qualify. I have purchased a police trade-in from Bud's from an earlier lot and have been pleased. By no means limit yourself to those from Bud's, however. I bought a Model 65 (a .357 magnum) that was a trade-in from another store and it is my home defense gun (and I have a number to choose from). BTW, I load that magnum with .38 spl +P loads.
__________________
Jim's Rules of Carry: 1. Any gun is better than no gun. 2. A gun that is reliable is better than a gun that is not. 3. A hole in the right place is better than a hole in the wrong place. 4. A bigger hole is a better hole.
KyJim is online now  
Old June 6, 2013, 02:11 PM   #16
temmi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 13, 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 531
Get a Glock

Depending on your hand size you may need a single stack

Snake
temmi is offline  
Old June 6, 2013, 02:41 PM   #17
AirCool65
Member
 
Join Date: April 22, 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 93
Like KyJim, I also recommend the S&W Model 10 that Bud's has listed. I bought one a couple of years ago and you can't go wrong with the gun or the price. I'm very happy with mine.
AirCool65 is offline  
Old June 6, 2013, 08:27 PM   #18
foghorn25
Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2011
Location: CT
Posts: 40
What JimmyR said. Plus.....it'll never be a jamomatic
foghorn25 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.10150 seconds with 9 queries