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Old October 27, 2008, 09:45 PM   #26
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Winchester Ammo

My shooting buddy and I went to the range this summer. He opens the box of 40 S&W Pistol ammo and two of the 50 rounds had the primers seated upside down! Do I think that makes Winchester bad and Remington good because I've NEVER had a FTF with the Rems? Not at all. S*** Happens! I'm partial to Winchester Model 70's but also have a Remington 700, 742 and 870's and shoot Remington Core Lokt's in rifle ammo and Winchester "White Box" pistol ammo. Moral of the story. Whatever floats your boat and makes YOU happy.
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Old October 27, 2008, 11:09 PM   #27
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Im still trying to find what floats my boat. I'm not bashing Remington Core-Lokt. Doesn't shoot well in my rifle, if at all. I'll have to see if its just an issue with the firing pin or the ammunition.
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Old October 28, 2008, 10:00 AM   #28
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It's probably just a matter of some guns work with some ammo and not with others. I hope that's all the problem you're having because I would have to guess a problem with the rifle if I had that many duds from a Core Lokt box. Maybe it was just a bad batch though. It happens.
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Old May 9, 2013, 01:22 PM   #29
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Just before everyone starts to point fingers at Remmington Core-Lokt, I have a new Savage 111 30-06 which had a number of mis-fires using Rem ammo. At first i was convinced it was the Remmington Ammo. I finally got a hold of a friend's 30-06 after my stockpile of Core-Lokt misfires started to pile up and found it was my rifle not the ammo that was the problem. It appears that Remmington has harder primers than other manufacturers, so this may cause issues with rifles that have lighter pin strikes. I am still fighting Savage to fix the rifle since there is no reason a new rifle shouldn't be able to detonate these rounds.
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Old May 9, 2013, 05:08 PM   #30
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The first thing I think of in reading a report of misfires is the gun, the second is the ammo. Ammo, even if relatively new, can be ruined by such factors as extreme heat during storage.

Ammo storage is a consideration today especially, when some old timers with ammo they squirrelled away back in 1950 are now dragging it out to sell at high prices. That ammo was not always stored under optimum conditions.

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Old May 9, 2013, 05:29 PM   #31
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Many years ago I bought a brand new box of Win .270 Silvertips. Out of that box, 2 rounds didn't fire even with repeated strikes. I still have that rifle & it has fired 1,000's of rounds since (mostly handloads) & it has never failed. I wish I had sent that box back to Winchester, but instead I never bought Winchester CF factory ammo again.

Just glad I wasn't pulling the trigger on a buck of a lifetime!

It happens...

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Old May 10, 2013, 08:28 AM   #32
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Clean your bolt. At the very least, shoot some Brake Kleen in the firing pin hole of the boltface. There may be some debris inside the bolt or some gummy grease that is slowing the fall of the FP. It's possible the Winchester ammo has a "softer" primer cup than the Remington. FWIW I've found the Winchester Power Point to perform poorer on deer and overall(both trajectory and retained energy) compared to Remington Corelokt.
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Old May 18, 2013, 06:01 PM   #33
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I have had different brands have duds over the years.
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Old May 18, 2013, 08:16 PM   #34
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Old May 19, 2013, 05:40 AM   #35
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I have had great luck with Remington Coreloct in the past this ammo situation might have caused them to have to scrounge for primers. The rantings of some unknown internet author will not lower My opinion of this fine Company!
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Old May 20, 2013, 04:57 AM   #36
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I used to shoot core-lokts in my Marlin 336 chambered .35 remington. I had a fail-to-fire once while I had a nice whitetail buck in the crosshairs. He of course ran off as soon as he heard the "click" and I had no chance to load another round and try again. I had two more misfires from the same box of 20 while shooting targets. They weren't light strikes, and I tried firing them a second time, same result. The ammo was obviously the problem. They had apparently used a bad batch of primers. I started shooting Hornady lever-evolution in it and have for the past few years with ZERO FTF's.

Core-lokts used to be a little cheaper than everything else but anymore they are right around the same price as Hornady custom, Winchester power point, Federal power shock, and my favorite, Federal Fusion. It is great ammo for the money. The Fusions are $21/box on midwayusa.com if you can catch them in stock, but I'd say if your'e at the local Wal-mart at the right time you could find them there as well.
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Old May 20, 2013, 12:52 PM   #37
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" I will be taking my 5 unfired rounds and push them back in and give them another go, and we'll see."

Just a suggestion but if the first two do not fire, save the other three and pull the bullet in one and see if there is powder in the shell. If not, I would send the five shell back to Reminon with a detailed note of the problem. They'll probably send you some fee ammo.
Frankly, I'm not surprised. With the factories ramping up production due to the demand quality control just has to suffer regardless of how closely they check it.
If the offending rounds do fire, then I'd be suspecting the rifle. I'd tear down the bolt and give the insides a good cleaning.
If Remingtom primers are a bit harder and the inside of the bolt a bit dirty, erratic firing pin strikes my also be a part of you accuracy problem with that ammo. Erratic force from the firing pin isn't gonna help one bit regarding accuracy. Winchester primers may have a slightly softer cup, I just don't know but Wichester primers have always seemed to be hotter than most other unless you're using magnum primers.
I'm repeating myself but I believe I'd be cleaning the bolt as one option toward fixing he problem.
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Old May 22, 2013, 08:43 AM   #38
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Huh? No need to do any weighing here. Clearly the primers did not go bang.
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