The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Revolver Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old April 27, 2013, 06:38 AM   #1
BoogieMan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,287
Shopping for a 357

Im filling my permits (NJ) and I want my next one to be a 357. Looking for some suggestions or pros and cons. Unless I really find a deal I am going to count Colt out, they tend to run more than I want to spend. Im thinking around $500 for a used gun. If its something really special (like a Colt or DW pistol pac) I might go up to $1000. I want a blued gun, double action with 4-6" barrel. I dont have any need to fill with this gun other than to fill a permit. And I dont have a 357, the only revolver I own is a 460. Also I tend to by middle to upper middle grade not for price alone.
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it.
Milton Freidman
BoogieMan is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 06:49 AM   #2
rob-c
Member
 
Join Date: February 27, 2013
Posts: 28
ruger black hawk (if you can find one you could get a convertible that comes with a 9 mm cylinder) or a gp100 or any smith and wesson.i wanted a RBH or GP and found a good deal on a Blackhawk and it is a shooter for sure. myself my mini collection is going to be,,, a single action, Blackhawk / a double action, super redhawk in 44 / and last a semi auto, ruger 1911.
rob-c is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 07:07 AM   #3
Gdawgs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 1, 2009
Location: Hutchinson, MN
Posts: 593
357 is probably my favorite caliber. Sounds like you already have a really good idea of what you want. The GP100 is a great choice for a new one. A new Smith will cost more than what you are looking to spend, but there are plenty of good used ones. I have a couple Dan Wessons and they are outstanding. The older Ruger Security Six or Police Six would also be a great choice. People here keep saying you can pick those up for 3-4 hundred bucks, but I don't know where they keep seeing those. I haven't seen one at any of the gunstores I go to for many years.

Like Rob mentioned, don't discount the Single actions (unless you've already shot some and don't like them). But I'd recommend trying one out, you may fall it love with it.
Gdawgs is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 09:21 AM   #4
shouldazagged
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 17, 2013
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
Posts: 273
Second the Security Six, wish I still had the one I foolishly let get away some years ago. Fine gun. If you plan to practice mostly with .38 Special and fewer .357 loads, there are good Smith 19's to be had pretty reasonably, and they are great revolvers--I love K-frames. Used 586's are available too, but they seem to be fewer and more expensive from what I'm hearing.
__________________
"Don't let macho be your epitaph."
---Ed Lovette
shouldazagged is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 09:52 AM   #5
4 Paws
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 17, 2012
Posts: 134
In that price range you may want to look at a S&W Model 19. A classic K frame revolver with great reviews.
4 Paws is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 10:08 AM   #6
skidder
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 17, 2008
Location: Montana
Posts: 636
I've found several Security Sixes all under $350. Fine shooters and built Ruger tough.

Quote:
People here keep saying you can pick those up for 3-4 hundred bucks, but I don't know where they keep seeing those. I haven't seen one at any of the gunstores I go to for many years.
That's strange how you never see any Sixes. My problem is finding a GP. I went out 4 different times looking for a GP. Came back with 4 Security/Service sixes. This started 3 years ago and I still have not found a used GP. I don't regret any of my Security Sixes, they are great, but I still want a GP for my Ruger collection.
__________________
Gun permit?? A bread crumb tossed to a sleeping society awoken by the sound of complacency. "They are for your own good", and "you will understand when you see all the lives they save". Yes master, what else will you toss me from your bag of infringements?? Do you want me to roll over and play dead? I do that very well. --skidder
skidder is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 11:51 AM   #7
Toney
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 17, 2005
Location: Stillwater Oklahoma
Posts: 651
Get a Smith k frame. My first was a m28
Toney is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 11:54 AM   #8
shafter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 23, 2009
Posts: 1,119
The Security Six is a great handgun but I think what the OP is looking for is a Smith and Wesson Model 19 with a 4'' barrel.
shafter is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 12:07 PM   #9
Cheapshooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 2, 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 4,713
The S&W Model 19 4". A classic 357 Magnum!
__________________
Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!
Cheapshooter is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 12:15 PM   #10
chipchip
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 21, 2005
Posts: 247
I favor the 586. I prefer the full lug barrel and I own then in 4" and 6". Bought both new last year. S&W calls then 586 Classics, check out their web site.
chipchip is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 04:01 PM   #11
Ferretboy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2012
Location: Longview, WA
Posts: 214
I love my GP100 6 inch SS, But after buying my S&W Model 36 I am gonna be keeping my eyes out for a S&W .357.
__________________
There is no such thing as Overkill, Dead is Dead!
Ferretboy is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 04:43 PM   #12
maclords
Junior Member
 
Join Date: February 5, 2010
Posts: 3
I'd recommend you give a look at 4 and 6 inch S&W model 28. Maybe the best quality/value available right now.
maclords is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 05:13 PM   #13
BoogieMan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,287
I would love to look at all these revolvers. Problem is I am limited to buying in NJ. And second, a blued 357 is like finding a flying pink unicorn. When I was looking for a used 460 there were 357 in ever store.
I have heard that some 357's are not capable of shooting full house mag loads all the time. Which ones would have that issue?
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it.
Milton Freidman
BoogieMan is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 05:15 PM   #14
ClydeFrog
Junior member
 
Join Date: May 1, 2010
Posts: 5,798
Ruger GP100 Talo version(Wiley Clapp)...

Good .357magnum revolvers include the Ruger SP101 & the mid frame GP100 series.
The rare limited ed Talo/Wiley Clapp version is a great value. You may find a few online; www.gunsamerica.com www.gunsinternational.com .
I saw a used Ruger Talo .357magnum at a gun shop in Norwalk CT. It wasn't cheap but will hold its value.

A S&W M&P R8(used by the elite ESU of the NYPD) is a good idea but they are costly & the huge N frame size.

ClydeFrog
ClydeFrog is offline  
Old April 27, 2013, 09:17 PM   #15
Sevens
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 28, 2007
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 9,163
Quote:
Get a Smith k frame. My first was a m28
Now that is one excessively rare Model 28 if it's a K-frame.

BoogieMan, the K-frame magnums are the ones that have the reputation. It's a grand debate about "how much" it takes to bust one, and which specific ammo it takes, but your Model 13, 19, 65, 66 are the ones that may give up with extended full-bore Magnum ammo.

That's -NO- good reason to avoid one, these are some of the greatest handguns over to grace the planet.

(FWIW, I too rarely see any Speed/Security/Service Sixes in my circles. And YEP, I look for them!)
__________________
Attention Brass rats and other reloaders: I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.
Sevens is offline  
Old April 28, 2013, 05:40 PM   #16
roaddog28
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 15, 2009
Location: Fallbrook, CA
Posts: 896
The most underrated 357 magnum in DA is the Ruger Security/Service Six revolvers. I have had my Service Six longer than any 357 magnum I have owned and still shoots great. For about $350 to $400 these revolvers are the best value.
Good luck
Howard
roaddog28 is offline  
Old April 28, 2013, 05:51 PM   #17
SIGSHR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 13, 2005
Posts: 3,166
I have seen the K-frame S&W .357s described as ".38s that can shoot .357s" S&W developed their L-frame to look like-and compete with-the Colt Python.
A good used Ruger Security Six-better to have adjustable sights IMHO-and a Dan Wesson are good choices. I live in NJ,I know what you mean about the permit hassle.
SIGSHR is offline  
Old April 28, 2013, 07:10 PM   #18
old bear
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 3, 2009
Location: Not close enough to the beach
Posts: 1,173
Quote:
S&W developed their L-frame to look like-and compete with-the Colt Python.
Smith and Wesson developed the L frame series to eliminate (?) some of the problems associated with the K frame revolvers chambered for the .357 Magnum round, not to compete with Colt's Python series. The L frame revolvers were aimed at the L/E and Recreational shooting market. Not the I want the best you make market, the S&W M-27 was the revolver for that market.
old bear is offline  
Old April 28, 2013, 09:13 PM   #19
ClydeFrog
Junior member
 
Join Date: May 1, 2010
Posts: 5,798
Smith & Wesson lawyer locks....

Bear in mind that many modern S&W DA revolvers have the stupid "lawyer locks" .
Many gunners do not like them & some have had problems with magnum loads.

CF
ClydeFrog is offline  
Old April 28, 2013, 09:21 PM   #20
silvermane_1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 6, 2011
Location: Burien,WA
Posts: 439
there are only two logical choices a GP-100 or Security Six, can shoot anything from Cowboy to Oh Boy.
__________________
Ruger:SR1911 CMD,MK 3 .22lr 6",Sec. Six '76 liberty .357 4",SRH .480 Ruger 7.5",Mini-14 188 5.56/.233 18.5", Marlin: 795 .22lr 16.5",30aw 30-30 20",Mossberg:Mav. 88 Tact. 12 ga, 18.5",ATR 100 .270 Win. 22",S&W:SW9VE
9mm 4",Springfeild:XD .357sig 4",CAI PSL-54C, WASR 10/63
silvermane_1 is online now  
Old April 28, 2013, 09:27 PM   #21
Revolver1
Junior member
 
Join Date: January 21, 2013
Location: NY
Posts: 150
Do yourself a favor and get an older Colt Python or older S&W N frame, either with a 4" barrel. Stay away from Ruger, they're crude.
Revolver1 is offline  
Old April 28, 2013, 10:30 PM   #22
Ferretboy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2012
Location: Longview, WA
Posts: 214
Ruger crude? Need a little breaking in that's all, never met a Ruger that didn't go bang every time.
__________________
There is no such thing as Overkill, Dead is Dead!
Ferretboy is offline  
Old April 28, 2013, 11:58 PM   #23
sourdough44
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 17, 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 611
I have a 4" Security-Six in the pipeline right now, to go with my 6" I already have. I paid $450 for this new addition.
sourdough44 is offline  
Old April 29, 2013, 04:20 AM   #24
Nathan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 1, 2001
Posts: 2,043
Quote:
In that price range you may want to look at a S&W Model 19. A classic K frame revolver with great reviews.
+1

Or a 586 if you want to shoot a lot of heavy loaded 357 mag.
Nathan is offline  
Old April 29, 2013, 05:16 AM   #25
kcub
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 24, 2010
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 2,020
Consider the Colt Trooper. It is out of print so it may go up like other Colts and yet is not too expensive yet. Know that you need to use snap caps if you get one. Check out the thread on them right now.
kcub is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.13650 seconds with 9 queries