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Old April 21, 2013, 08:15 PM   #1
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Accuracy standard?

For years I have been trying to uncover a quick and easy standard size group to evaluate my BP revolvers It was so simple that I'd been using it for years, a standard Playing Card! I have always wanted to put a cylinderfull into an Ace of Spades but usually inspite of my best efforts, the group gets spread out...
If you can hold one Playing Card at 21 ft, you are an offical gunslinger!
Centered on a standard sihoulette, it covers the heart perfectly!
Like they say sometimes you can't see the Forest for the trees, eh?
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Old April 21, 2013, 09:59 PM   #2
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Are you saying, put 6 anywhere in a playing card at 21 feet, one hand, standing?

I dunno.... I can sometimes put 6 in the end of a coke can, but certainly not always. 'Never tried a playing card. 'There's something to do tomorrow!
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Old April 22, 2013, 06:07 AM   #3
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I like to use the NRA 25 yard timed and rapid fire target as a standard. Target # B-8C(P)
If I can keep 10 shots in the black (9 ring) shooting one handed at 25 yards, I consider myself a "gunslinger".

Naturally, I set the bar low enough so that it includes me on my better days.
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Old April 22, 2013, 06:48 AM   #4
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I like to find a load my revolver likes from a solid rest(i strive for 2" groups at 25 yds). That elliminates another variable(or excuse) when shooting freehand at 12-15 yds where i try to keep all shots inside a 4" circle.
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Old April 22, 2013, 07:49 AM   #5
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Playing Card Standard

While the playing card standard is an authentic way of judging accuracy, it ignores the time factor (and of course the stress factor of someone shooting back.)

I concur with the accuracy standard of six shots into a playing card at 7 to 10 yards being excellent.

I think 2 shots into the center scoring area or head of an IDPA or IPSC target at the same distance in as many seconds is a good "gunslinger" demonstration. With range safety considerations, doing that from a holster draw may not be practical.

However, never lose sight that the standard for Hikok, Earp, Matterson, and others as "man killers" was to walk away.

I offer that while they all had to be good marksmen, their willingness to face death was more important to their survival.
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Old April 22, 2013, 08:53 AM   #6
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I murder Coke cans by shooting them in the back at 25 yards.
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Old April 22, 2013, 04:20 PM   #7
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Ruthless

Hawg, you are ruthless.
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Old April 22, 2013, 05:05 PM   #8
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Hawg you haft to be able to burp will shooting that coke can to be the best.
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Old April 22, 2013, 05:59 PM   #9
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Hawg, you are ruthless.
Yeah., I know.

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Hawg you haft to be able to burp will shooting that coke can to be the best
I don't proclaim to be the best, just pretty good. I may hafta shoot some of'em twice but in the end they all die.
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Old April 22, 2013, 08:51 PM   #10
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Dollar General doesn't carry playing cards ..... I'll have to get some next trip to Wally World.
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Old April 23, 2013, 06:16 AM   #11
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I can claim 100% accuracy....

My rounds always hit the ground.

Eventually.
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Old April 23, 2013, 12:06 PM   #12
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Last summer I loaded up some .44 Special with Pyrodex P and .433 round balls. I think I used about 25 grains. I put two cylinderfuls of that into paper at 25 yards from a rest, using an S&W 624. Then I did the same with a Pietta 1858 Remington replica (with .454 balls). I couldn't tell the difference in the groups. Each twelve shots in about 2.5 inches.

When finished, the 624 looked like it had been stored for a year in a bucket of soot. The low pressure Pyrodex cartridges do not obturate well, so the soot goes everywhere. Interesting, but not going to do it again. The 1858 Remington is great, however.
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