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Old April 16, 2013, 04:59 PM   #6151
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any thoughts on this? pro's and con's?
I would suggest posting your question in the semi-auto forum were you would obtain a greater number responses from folks with experience on all the guns you asked about.

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Old April 17, 2013, 07:15 AM   #6152
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Hey guys, I'm hoping one of you can help me find the date of manufacture to my Model 66 .357.

Serial number: 4K198xx

Admittedly, I don't know a whole lot about guns in general and this was supposedly my uncles service weapon from around the 1970s (as I'm told). Can anyone confirm the date?

Thanks!
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Old April 17, 2013, 04:52 PM   #6153
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1973.
Production of the model 66 started in 1970 so that's an early one.

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Old April 17, 2013, 08:02 PM   #6154
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S&W Shotgun

I have a S&W Model 1000 12 Guage shotgun and wanted to know what year it was manufactured. The serial number is FS530XX.
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Old April 18, 2013, 08:21 PM   #6155
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S&W Revolvers & Autos: Born on Date Confirmation?

Hi All, new to the forum. Have a list that's partially compete but without a phone call to Smith I can't be sure. Some unknown some just want a second opinion.
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19-6 4 inch SN: BBM86xx
29-2 8 3/8 SN: N3450xx
59 (no dash) 4 inch SN:A3330xx
4506 (no dash) 5 inch SN: TCF87xx
686-4 6 inch SN: BPU20xx
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Old April 18, 2013, 08:32 PM   #6156
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I have a S&W Model 1000 12 Guage shotgun
No serial number data available for shotguns in the Standard Catalog of S&W. You might try calling S&W's customer service.

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19-6 4 inch SN: BBM86xx
29-2 8 3/8 SN: N3450xx
59 (no dash) 4 inch SN:A3330xx
4506 (no dash) 5 inch SN: TCF87xx
686-4 6 inch SN: BPU20xx
19-6 4 inch SN: BBM86xx = 1988.
29-2 8 3/8 SN: N3450xx = 1975/76.
59 (no dash) 4 inch SN:A3330xx = 1976/77.
4506 (no dash) 5 inch SN: TCF87xx = 1988/89.
686-4 6 inch SN: BPU20xx = 1994.

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Old April 21, 2013, 04:10 PM   #6157
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S&W Model 14-3 Nickel

Trying to find out some info on my S&W Model 14-3. A gunsmith told me that Smith and Wesson nickel plated approximately 10% of their revolvers released in the early sixties. Mine is nickel plated, but I have no idea what year it was manufactured or if the nickel plating statement is true or not, so I thought I would consult the experts!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

S&W Model 14-3, nickel plated, 6-inch barrel
38 S.&W. SPECIAL CTG. stamped on barrel
Serial number: 8K363xx

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Old April 21, 2013, 08:13 PM   #6158
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'69-70 model 10-5

The SN is dated but i have a different question. inside the arm where the cylinder swings out is a different set of numbers as well as 2 letters( X N) that look hand punched since they are off centered.
Both of the SNs are 92 xxx but they are different so i supposed the cylinder was replaced at one time. but whats with the xn? any guesses?
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Old April 21, 2013, 08:25 PM   #6159
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8K363xx
1975.
While the 10% nickel number is generally accepted it is not across the board for all models. Nickeled model 14's are rare.
If yours is original factory nickel it will likely have a "N" stamped on the side of the frames grip and on the back of the cylinder. In addition, the trigger, hammer and ejector star with not be plated.

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Old April 21, 2013, 08:36 PM   #6160
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The SN is dated but i have a different question. inside the arm where the cylinder swings out is a different set of numbers as well as 2 letters( X N) that look hand punched since they are off centered.
Both of the SNs are 92 xxx but they are different so i supposed the cylinder was replaced at one time. but whats with the xn? any guesses?
The serial number is on the underside of the frames grip butt.
The other numbers are assembly/inspector numbers that only S&W could decipher.

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Old April 22, 2013, 10:00 AM   #6161
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8K363xx

Jim, I took the grip off and did not find an "N" stamped, but instead I found a "C" and what appears to be a very faint "1" right after it...so "C1". There was also "A9" stamped and a number "2" at a 45 degree angle, off by itself from the other stamps. I didn't see anything on the back of the cylinder yet.
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Old April 23, 2013, 10:53 AM   #6162
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15-3 d.o.b.

smith & wesson model 15-3 , 2'' barrel , blue ,square butt, 8k325xx
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Old April 25, 2013, 03:06 PM   #6163
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Jim, I took the grip off and did not find an "N" stamped, but instead I found a "C" and what appears to be a very faint "1" right after it...so "C1". There was also "A9" stamped and a number "2" at a 45 degree angle, off by itself from the other stamps. I didn't see anything on the back of the cylinder yet.
Yeah, it's likely its been refinished from blue to nickel.

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Old April 29, 2013, 07:58 AM   #6164
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8K363xx

I'm a little confused...you (Jim) posted a response to my post by "quoting" my serial number as 8k325xx in your second response to me, saying the model year was 1975. My serial number is 8K363xx, which you also said was 1975 in your first post. Was this just a typo or maybe you misquoted someone else's number?
And regarding the nickel plating...if it was refinished from blue to nickel would there by any sign of the blue left, anywhere on the gun? Under the grip or in the cylinder housing anywhere? Just curious...and thank you for your responses!
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Old April 29, 2013, 07:44 PM   #6165
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I'm a little confused
The DOB for sn 8k325xx was for post #6162, not yours.
The original blue finish would have to be completely removed for the new finish to work.

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Old May 5, 2013, 09:29 AM   #6166
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S&W 1917 .45 Information requested

.45 is unquestionably my favorite handgun caliber and I have lusted for one of these revolvers for many years. Last Friday I had the opportunity to pick one up inexpensively – it is not collectible quality having a few pits and some loss of bluing but it is in good shape as a shooter.

My first question is age – there are matching serial numbers of 168XX with an S off to the right-hand side. I don't have the book some of you have mentioned and hope someone will look this up and give me an approximate date of manufacture.

My understanding is that this would have originally had a lanyard ring which is not present. It seems as though the butt may have been replaced as I believe that I have seen that the original would have also had a serial number on the butt. Is this true? The existing metal on the butt of the revolver is perfectly plain with no serial number and no "tap hole" for the lanyard ring. Can one be secured and if so would it be worthwhile as serial number would not match and how difficult is it to install?

Finally, I intend to use this as a hideout, home protection gun next to my bed and wonder about ammunition. It seems to be a robust revolver and I think it would probably be okay with government issue, 230 grain hardball but wonder what others think and if someone has personal experience running powerful loads through this 90 to 100 year old revolver?
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Old May 6, 2013, 09:12 PM   #6167
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Alexcomp,

Pictures would help in this case. Serial numbers ran from 1 in Sep 1917 to 163600 in Jan 1919. There should be a serial number stamped on the underside on the grip butt as well as the lanyard ring. If not, the hole was likely filled in and the butt ground smooth. For an early example (below 42000 serial number) the initials GHS as well as US ARMY MODEL 1917 and US PROPERTY stamped on it. This is assuming the frame is original.
I would limit loads to standard factory pressure ammo. No hot loads, the gun is, after all, almost 100 years old.

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Old May 9, 2013, 08:45 AM   #6168
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S&W Snub nose

I have a nickel 32 long ctg that shows model marking 24T1
with serial# on curved butt of 1883XX

I would like to know model and age if someone could help out.

value would be nice too, but this has been in family a long time and sentimental value probably outweighs it.

Would be cool if had belonged to Elvis or something :-)

Also , what does the ctg actually stand for?

Thanks for any help yall can share.

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Old May 9, 2013, 03:48 PM   #6169
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Old 38 Special

Sorry but I have not been able to drum up the book you have been speaking about. The serial number I have found is 228xxx. There are several dates stamped on the barrel ranging from March 27, 1894 to Sept 14, 1909. All I know is that it was bought new by a family member (passed now) and passed down over the years.

Thank you for any assistance you can share on this.
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Old May 9, 2013, 09:17 PM   #6170
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I have a nickel 32 long ctg that shows model marking 24T1
with serial# on curved butt of 1883XX
32 Hand Ejector 5th Change.
Serial numbers ran from 102501 in 1910 to 263000 in 1917.
Value can range from $300 in good to $500 or more in excellent.
CTG = Cartridge.

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The serial number I have found is 228xxx. There are several dates stamped on the barrel ranging from March 27, 1894 to Sept 14, 1909
38 Military & Police 3rd Change.
Serial numbers ran from 146900 in 1909 to 241703 in 1915.

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Old May 9, 2013, 11:49 PM   #6171
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Military & Police .38spl. 2"

Serial# 02397xx
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Old May 10, 2013, 01:07 PM   #6172
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Military & Police .38spl. 2"

Serial# 02397xx
Too many digits and S&W does not start serial numbers with a "0".

See pic for serial number location:

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Old May 10, 2013, 02:31 PM   #6173
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Sorry, it's C239761.
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Old May 10, 2013, 07:12 PM   #6174
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Smith and Wesson serial number search

Just recorded one with serial # BKZ5727. Inside the grip its stamped (41). Would this be the year of mfg?
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Old May 10, 2013, 08:18 PM   #6175
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it's C239761
.38 Military & Police.
Serial number dates to 1952.

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serial # BKZ5727. Inside the grip its stamped (41).
That would be an assembly/inspector number. Serial number dates it to 1992.

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