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Old April 4, 2013, 06:00 PM   #1
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Lookin for an Accurate 25-06 Rem. Load

I just started reloading recently and was wondering if an one has figured out an accurate load for hunting and target. My first load I messed with was 53.5 gr. Win Sup 780, Win Nickel Plated Brass, CCI BR-2 Primers, and Hornady 110gr. Interbond which was not impressive at all. Both 3 shot groups produced where right around 1.5 groups. That is unacceptable from a Sako A7 (1-10 twist) that will shoot 5 shot MOA groups with a few different factory loads. So if i could get some advise I would appreciate it alot. Thanks
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Old April 5, 2013, 07:29 PM   #2
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Try the same bullet and primer with Hodgdon Retumbo powder. You might also try the Nosler 115 grain Ballistic Tip bullet with Retumbo. I've had very good success with 25-06 loads. This was at 150 yards, me leaning over the hood of my pickup.

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Old April 5, 2013, 08:15 PM   #3
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I know things are hard to come by right now, but if I were to recommend things to better your progress, I would suggest the following,

Drop the nickle plated cases, they will only cause you headaches in the long run. They will work harden up on you really quick and not much you can do about it when they do. The neck tension issues will drive your groups wild.

If and when you can get your hands on some Reloader-22, do so and you will be a happy fellow. It is almost like it was made expressly for the 25-06. With bullets ranging from 110 through 120, it will serve you well.

This is how my 20'ish year old 25-06 consistently shoots using either 110 or 115gr Noslers, RL-22, in either Win or Rem cases and Win-WLR primers,

110gr Accubonds at 250yds.

The grandson and I had just finished cleaning the rifle and loading the bullets, well he did. I fired the low hit as a fouler and the other two for group to check the scope out before hunting season. Being it was set for a 200yd zero and we had a gusting cross wind I left it alone. Granted 2 shots usually doesn't mean anything much to me, or anyone else for that matter, but with this rifle and having done this so many times over the past 20'ish years, I don't feel it necessary to waste bullets or barrel simply to shoot a ragged hole in a piece of paper. I know if it doesn't shoot the 110 Accubonds or 115gr Partitions like this, something else is up.
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Old April 6, 2013, 06:51 AM   #4
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Thanks for the advice. I will try some different powder and get some new brass, I didn't realize that nickel plated brass was such a hassle. If their is anything else I could do or try let me know. Thanks
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Old April 6, 2013, 07:28 AM   #5
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We've got four .25-06 rifles in the family and the recipe I have settled on is Remington brass, 115 grain bullets (either SGK or Hornady SST), 50.0 grains of RL22 and WLR primers. This is my stock, go-to load for that caliber. I can't tell you which rifle this group was shot from, simply because we have two Ruger 77s in that caliber, but this group is very representative of this load in any of our four rifles.



I'm sure that I could play with an individual rifle and tighten that group some, adjusting the cartridge OAL to an individual chamber, but because I'm loading for four of these rifles, two Rungers, two Savag, and I generally just load a batch to the standard length.
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Old April 6, 2013, 09:20 AM   #6
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25/06 loads?

Both of my 25/06's prefer 100gr bullets(Partitions aand BalTips) and IMR4831. I found both accuracy nodes just under max.
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Old April 6, 2013, 09:50 PM   #7
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Thanks for the info. I dont know, I could be wrong but i kinda think that the Win 780 powder that i am using may be part of the problem with my accuracy. Has anyone used this powder before or know anything about it? I also have h4350 that I was thinking of switching to just to find out if it makes a differnce in accuracy. Thanks for the replies.
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Old April 7, 2013, 06:07 AM   #8
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If you want to get the full potential of this cartridge. Try a powder with a slower burn like IMR 4831 or RL #22 which some others here seem to be having good luck with. As far as Winchester 780 I haven't tried it or know of anyone else who has either.

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Old April 7, 2013, 07:47 AM   #9
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I've been working on an 85 grain Ballistic Tip from Nosler, with IMR 4350, according to my data IMR 4831 can be used also to great repeatability, but the IMR 4350 seems to pack the group right tight.. I wanted to develope a bad--s coyote shooter and me thinks it's all but done.. I have twenty rounds loaded for the range today, to rezero scope and practice with, I will post pics of targets if the computer gods are with me today.
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Old April 7, 2013, 11:12 PM   #10
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25-06 loads

Exactly what are you looking for performance wise, xbox? Are you black bear hunting or whitetail? Or are you going moose hunting?

For deer, the 100 gr. Ballistic Tip is a flat shooter in 25-06. IMR 4831 is a great propellent for that bullet. My Ruger does not like Partitions, for some reason. Tried 100 gr, 115 gr, and some old 117 gr. Partitions, and it won't group under a couple inches. 110 Accubond with Retumbo is fast too--go to the Nosler load book for the recipe.
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Old April 8, 2013, 01:33 AM   #11
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The 5 shot groups at 100 yards averages I get with a 40X scope, 10" twist factory stress relieved and hand lapped heavy barrel, the 257 bullet weights:

72 gr Berger and 75 gr Vmax: 0.6"

85 gr., 87 gr: 0.8"

100 gr.: 1.0" [and they do not stray far from that with a lot of groups]

115 gr , 117 gr, and 110 gr.: 1.2"

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Old April 8, 2013, 05:51 AM   #12
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The only game that i will be hunting with this rifle is deer or varmints. Also I have not really done my research but I thought for accuracy with a 1-10 twist a 100-120gr bullet was the way to go not 75-90gr. Please enlighten me on this info. Also is H4350 similar to IMR4350? Thanks for helping!!
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Old April 8, 2013, 06:28 AM   #13
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My Ruger #1V has a 1:10 twist barrel. My "light" load is an 87 grain Sierra bullet with H4831 powder. My "heavy" load is the Nosler 115 BT (shown in the photo above). Both are scary accurate. I bought the gun thinking it could do double duty for deer and varmints. Too much gun for varmints so I put a fixed 6 power scope on it and use it for deer. The variety you get with a 22 caliber rifle is much greater (and cheaper) for varmints. Plus it gives you the excuse to get another gun.
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Old April 9, 2013, 11:59 AM   #14
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Is H4350 similar to IMR4350?

http://www.imrpowder.com/basic-manual-inquiry.html

Take a look on this link. That should answer some of you questions. Get a couple of good manuels and read the text on reloading basics. Faster twists are necessary for longer heavier bullets when shooting heavy for caliber rounds. For the 25-06 your twist rate is good for everything from 75 gr up to 120 gr. bullets.
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