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Old June 19, 2009, 03:14 PM   #51
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I picked up an original model 80 for 100$, I couldn't go wrong.

Oops, I did not mean this to be first post. I realize now no one will believe me since I'm new.
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Old June 19, 2009, 08:08 PM   #52
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Taurus probably isn't on the same level as S&W quality-wise. Ruger designs are more modern and reputedly more durable than either S&W or Taurus. If you bought a Taurus, it'd probably do what you need, but the S&W is worth the extra money if you're sure you want a gun of that type.


I bought a M85SSUL as sort of an entry-level snubnose when I had no experience with that type of gun. Now, I'm pretty sure they'll bury me with a snubnose .38 in my pocket. The Model 85 is good enough, so I've got no reason to upgrade. But if I hadn't been just experimenting, I'd have bought a S&W.


I'd probably stay away from Ruger's polymer revolver because it's new and unproven; it's butt-ugly; and there's no upside to polymer over aluminum. The SP-101 has a great reputation, but it might be a bit heavy for pocket carry.


So, I say S&W 642 or similar. Plus, if you got a Taurus, you'd have to spend time on this BB defending the brand. Much easier to have no dog in that fight.
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Old June 20, 2009, 10:11 AM   #53
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I've been reading this board for some time and am sometimes informed, sometimes amused, and sometimes not so amused. I just now joined to post and I know I have no credibility (whatever that is on a forum such as this) but I do have and shoot revolvers. My colts, rugers, and s&w entertain me on the range often and have taken deer and a bear and will blow hell out of any intruder foolish enough to intrude, but last year I needed a carry gun and did some research. I looked at airweights and UL's of different makes. I'm an engineer and believe any of these light guns could develop troubles if pounded repeatedly with heavy loads. Heavy duty work requires heavy duty tools. I have money to buy what I need but I didn't get it by throwing it around. I love made in USA but my gunshop owner told me to look at Taurus 85's. Two of the three sheriff deputies I asked carried 85ul's as backups. I bought mine last summer. Its a stainless model and I like it more and more as I get to know it. I guess I don't shoot it much; 50 rounds each month or two, double action 99% of the time. I like it and have had no troubles. I just added laser grips. I love my U.S. made guns, but in these lightweights I don't believe the quality differences equal the price differences, if there is any quality difference at all. 'nuff said.
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Old November 11, 2009, 03:03 AM   #54
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Taurus Revolvers

I have owned two...two too many. The first, you couldnt get the cylinder open or shut without EXTREME pressure. Closing was near impossible.
Sent it back after never having been fired. It was gone three months!!
When I got it back it was still very hard to open. Sent it back and requested my money returned. They said no, sent it back and I traded a brand new gun for another at a dealer taking a $225.00 loss.
The new one I traded for I took to the field to practice. Encountered some coyotes on my land. Pulled the revolver, one of the coyotes was not backing down as I saw a small deer they were feasting on. Pulled the trigger for the first time ever, CLICK CLICK CLICK....NOTHING!
There I am with the revolver on the ground and my knife in my hand wondering what would happen next. He snarled and I slowly backed away, coming back the next morning to pick up the POS Taurus revolver.
Im not sending this one (brand new) back to Taurus but am taking it to a local gunsmith to see if it can be fixed. The hammer spring is not strong enough to light the primer. It puts a TINY dent in the cartridge.
Hey, I can put up with a lot but when your life may be at stake, I will never buy another BRAND X firearm and would strongly suggest that no one else ever buy one either.
Save a little longer and go for a quality firearm. I own S&W and Rugers and have NEVER had any problems with their products.
A WORD TO THE WISE IS SUFFICIENT....
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Old November 11, 2009, 06:34 AM   #55
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taurus posts are entertaining.you have 4 types of posts. notice i said posts because some posts are from people that have never owned a taurus but....

post type #1.
i had a friend that had a taurus, my uncle had a taurus, i overheard a conversation about a taurus and they had nothing but problems. the only place hearsay evidence is accepted is on boards like this.

post type #2.
i bought a taurus had a problem would never buy another. this type of post has credibility. if i bought a gun brand and it sucked i would NEVER buy another either.

post type #3.
i have purchased 3,4,5...fill in the blank taurus and they all sucked. each one broke, the customer service sucked. i would never buy another taurus.....now after my 3,4,5....fill in the blank purchase. my question to these people is if you bought 2 taurus guns and you had problems with both why on earth would you keep buying more? i tend to take these posts with a large grain of salt. an old saying comes to mind. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.......fool me 3,4,5 times or more than i am just a fool.

post type #4.
i am a taurus owner. i currently own 1,2,5....fill in the blank taurus guns. i have fired 100.....1,000....10,000 rounds thru mine. i would tend to think these posts are credible. they are current owners, they are relating their experiences good, bad or indifferent.


on a personal note i have bought a number of taurus guns. i have been happy with all and would continue to buy more taurus products. i can't comment on the customer service because i have never needed it. i can't comment on all their models because i don't own all their models. the models i do own i am satisfied with.
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Old November 11, 2009, 11:03 AM   #56
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I have owned two...two too many. The first, you couldnt get the cylinder open or shut without EXTREME pressure. Closing was near impossible.
Sent it back after never having been fired. It was gone three months!!
When I got it back it was still very hard to open. Sent it back and requested my money returned. They said no, sent it back and I traded a brand new gun for another at a dealer taking a $225.00 loss.
The new one I traded for I took to the field to practice. Encountered some coyotes on my land. Pulled the revolver, one of the coyotes was not backing down as I saw a small deer they were feasting on. Pulled the trigger for the first time ever, CLICK CLICK CLICK....NOTHING!
There I am with the revolver on the ground and my knife in my hand wondering what would happen next. He snarled and I slowly backed away, coming back the next morning to pick up the POS Taurus revolver.
Im not sending this one (brand new) back to Taurus but am taking it to a local gunsmith to see if it can be fixed. The hammer spring is not strong enough to light the primer. It puts a TINY dent in the cartridge.
Hey, I can put up with a lot but when your life may be at stake, I will never buy another BRAND X firearm and would strongly suggest that no one else ever buy one either.
Save a little longer and go for a quality firearm. I own S&W and Rugers and have NEVER had any problems with their products.
A WORD TO THE WISE IS SUFFICIENT....
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Amen Silver Bullet,

I only bought on new Taurus new and never fired but 50 rounds in it. It spend the last three months in back at Taurus. They never did fix the revolver. My gun shop took the revolver back and sold me a nice S&W 28-2. I will only buy Smiths or Rugers.
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Old November 11, 2009, 11:34 AM   #57
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Taurus revolvers. I had mine years ago and went through the usual stages: hope, disbelief, defeat.
My experience is 100% opposite of this. From what I've seen with my Taurus guns - they're brilliantly designed, crudely manufactured, reliable.
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Old November 11, 2009, 11:48 AM   #58
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they all are letting some junk slip out... I had a S&W I bought new that was "unsafe" to shoot as it came out of the factory, & it took 3 return trips back to the factory to get fixed correctly... I've personally never had a problem with a Ruger yet, but there are plenty of people out there that have as well...

"generally" the Smiths & Rugers are going to be better quality, but as witnessed, they have their problems too...

I think the key is, how do they deal with those problems, Taurus's customer service pretty generally gets a failing grade, I had a question for them, ( I own 2 Tauri & have never had any problems with those two ), but I feel my questions were handled professionally & cheerfully... granted I was not dealing with a repair, but...

... & I was treated pretty badly on the phone ( I think 2nd call tag on the same gun ) from S&W, & after the gun came back that time, still in an "unsafe to fire condition" ( this was determined by S&W CS ), I had to talk to the local area service rep before the 3rd trip back to S&W...

I guess what I'm getting at, is in todays day & age, "how" a company makes the gun affordable might have alot to do with how many guns they get back, but how, & "if", & can they even fix the problem is more important to me...

IMO, regarding revolvers, the S&W's are not worth what they are charging today... Rugers seem a "good value" today, Taurus, Rossi, Charter, etc. may be better values, but only if the gun is built well enough to serve it's purpose, functions, & the company will stand behind it's products... all are making lemons right now
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Old November 11, 2009, 12:18 PM   #59
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I bought an old, beat up 4-in .38 spc from a Pawn shop about 8 years ago and it shot great with no trouble at all. I also had a 4-inch .44 mag that shot great. If your gun ever breaks they'll fix it free of charge. Not bad at all.

I'd rather have a Ruger or S&W but you get more bang for your buck with Taurus IMHO.
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Old November 11, 2009, 01:52 PM   #60
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IMO, regarding revolvers, the S&W's are not worth what they are charging today... Rugers seem a "good value" today, Taurus, Rossi, Charter, etc. may be better values, but only if the gun is built well enough to serve it's purpose, functions, & the company will stand behind it's products... all are making lemons right now

Magnum wheel, I tend to agree with you. S&Ws new are not worth the extra money for what you can get Rugers for. And I am not a fan of internal lock mim part revolvers. My Smiths are prelock and older. I have one older Ruger and a new GP100. As far as Taurus goes, their revolvers have good features but they seem to have more out of the box issues than Ruger or Smith. And the service is not good. Three months went buy and when my revolver came back from Taurus it still had the same issue. Any person can't have confidence in a company when you wait longs periods of time to get a product fixed and then when it gets back it still has the same issue.

I would never buy a Taurus firearm. I will buy older Smiths and I feel Ruger makes the best "out of the box" revolver in the gun world now.

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Old November 11, 2009, 02:16 PM   #61
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I'm not a "hater" of any of them myself... 2 of the revolvers in my daily carry battery are side lock Smiths, as is the one I referenced earlier with the frequent flier miles back & forth between S&W & myself...( not by choice of course ), but because they made ( both of my carry guns are also discontinued, the S&W 610, a gun no one else made anything similar ) something that I wanted, & was not available from somene else... Taurus is very good about offering up specialty revolvers, that no one else did, or were copies of something else that had already been discontinued... unfortunately this often puts us as consumers buying a compromise... it might be a S&W with a lock & MIM parts, or a Taurus 9mm revolver...

as long as the gun functions & or can be made so, I'm afraid we are stuck, as long as we wanted something bad enough to overlook the negitives... I can understand the bias towards Taurus, for those that tried to get non functional guns fixed, but how does that make them any worse than my expirience with S&W ???

again it goes back to how / what they did to make the revolver more affordable, & it's resulting failure rate... likely Taurus has a higher failure rate, but as long as they can fix them, like S&W ( after 3 return trips ) was able to do, how can I as a consumer that has all the brands feel any worse about one than the other ( especially considering the Tauri I own have functioned perfectly since I've had them, & both have been owned for 10-12 years each, & they are "so" cheap to buy in comparision )

Honestly, I was sick over this S&W thing for a long time... not for self pitty, but because of the demise of the American gun manufacterers, & pitty for all American Consumers over the lack of QC on one of America's premium fire arms manufacturers... again, for the money difference between S&W & "the cheaper models" ( often more than 3 times the price difference ) you can bet Taurus is going to sell guns, especially in a tight economic market... IMO, if S&W, & Ruger are going to sell guns at 2-3 times the price of a bargan gun, the guns aught to be perfect leaving the factory... if they are not, then it sure seems that the bargan revolvers are doing something "better" than the "big names"
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Old November 11, 2009, 03:29 PM   #62
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Get one and find out for yourself.
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Old November 20, 2009, 04:10 PM   #63
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I own 2 Taurus revolvers and I've always been pleased with them. I own the model 85 in .38 special+p, and the tracker 44 in .44 magnum. As far as quality, personally I don't rate them any lower than the others. And for the price, you can't beat the lifetime warranty on the gun and not the person. I'm in the process of adding another Taurus to my collection.
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Old November 22, 2009, 07:53 PM   #64
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I have an 85 ul that came into my shop used. i think i gave 125 for it with a fobus holster, i intended on using it for a few days while i have my back a rest from my 45. that was 8 months ago, still carry it every day, has been 100 percent reliable, lightweight, good ergonomics with the packmyer grips on it, i am kinda ashamed to say it but i love mine
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Old November 22, 2009, 08:31 PM   #65
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^^^That is the same way I feel about the blued Taurus m605 357mag I picked up this week.
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Old November 23, 2009, 09:53 PM   #66
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I shot my first TAURUS a couple weeks ago. Twas a 6'' 357. My neighbor and I were shooting his 15 year old gun along with my 30 year old Colt and Smith.
All went Bang. I had no complaint with the gun at all. Was it junk? No. Would I buy one. Prolly not. Look at a new one. Aint as smooth as my 30 year old Smiths. Hey. The new Smiths seem nice but are WAY over priced. I can buy a nice 30 year old Smith for the price of a new Taurus. I can buy 2 30 year old Smits for the price of a new Smith
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Old November 24, 2009, 09:50 PM   #67
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Still happy with my Taurus revolver.
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Old November 24, 2009, 11:05 PM   #68
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My first M85 broke and I attributed this to dry-firing it without snapcaps. Taurus sent me a brand new gun and it seemed to work fine. I did a lot of dry firing but I used snapcaps. Then, it started seizing up every few times I pulled the trigger. No more. I went out the next day and bought a S&W 642.


I've had good luck with Taurus automatics, but from now on I'll buy revolvers from S&W or Ruger.
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Old April 1, 2013, 12:19 PM   #69
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Taurus Revolver Quality

I had not idea that Taurus had a such well deserved poor reputation for manufacturing quality and gunsmithing. I just got rid if my model 9 shot .22 revolver. After about 300 rounds the double and single action shooting became almost impossible. It was almost completely locked up, Cocking would wear the skin off your thumb. It also had many cosmetic defects. I returned the gun and it was returned with cosmetics repaired but the shooting problem returned in about 100 rounds I returned it again and it took 63 rounds for the problem to come back. I returned it again and shot several hundred rounds OK. By this time they had shaved the hammer so the firing pin would practically peen the case to the cylinder. The barrel to cylinder gap, which was originally .003"" was now .013". It was out of time (carry up?) on one of the cylinder bores. The bolt would not click into place when cocked until your rotated the cylinder slightly. The barrel to cylinder alignment was slightly off and it would shave lead into the throat. I did not send the gun in for a 4th time. I traded it in for a Smith. It was not an even trade but well worth the difference.
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Old April 1, 2013, 07:25 PM   #70
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My experiances with Taurus in general has been less than satisfactory.

I have a good friend who is a dealer in another state that sells quite a number of them. People want them because they cost significantly less than S&W or Ruger. My friend makes it clear to his buyers that Taurus has QC issues and sales are final. He further lets buyers know that Taurus can make their guns work if you send them back, and sometimes it takes two or more trips.

A local dealer was taking a brand new Taurus revolver out of the box to show a customer how to load it, when the cylinder release broke off.
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