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Old March 27, 2013, 08:49 PM   #26
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Its kind of strange how I wound up with the two guns , I didnt have a 1911 in my collection and would have loved to have a Colt but trying to get the most bang for the buck I decided to buy the Remington because they hadnt made a 1911 since WWII.
Umm ... actually, not since WW1.

Are you not aware that the Remington Rand company that made M1911A1s for WW2 was the typewriter company? Today's Remington Arms is a descendant of Remington UMC, who made M1911s for WW1. They are very much not the same company.
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Old March 27, 2013, 08:50 PM   #27
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Remington because they hadnt made a 1911 since WWII.
Actually, the current Remington Company in NY had never made them, prior to the introduction of the R1. The M1911s of WWI were made by the Remington-UMC plant in Bridgeport, CT, and the WWII pistols were made by the Remington-Rand typewriter company. Remington is coy about it, just like Springfield Armory being the "oldest name in American Firearms", when most of their guns are imported from Brazil and Croatia.
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Old March 27, 2013, 09:00 PM   #28
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Glocks... 1911s... I own both and like them both.
I agree... I like my Glocks.... but absolutely adore my 1911's. Performance wise, I am more comfortable and better with a 1911, there for I choose it before all others.
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Old March 27, 2013, 09:11 PM   #29
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Are the 1911's for sale? If so i want dibs on the Remington, i prefer the 1911s to glocks if you havent already noticed...
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Old March 27, 2013, 09:22 PM   #30
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TunnelRat , combat situation constitutes any situation where the pucker factor is high and one or more attackers are trying to hurt you , you are forced to protect you and yours . As for the history of remington 1911's, you learn something everyday,thanks for the info. Now whats the best way to carry it? I truly love the guns im still leaning to the glock for maximum firepower in a small space . I think this comparison is similar to comparing the Garand to the ar 15., one being reliable and powerful and kind of heavy the other smaller lighter and carries more rounds. I will agree shot placement is everything , Id just rather have more shots to place!!........LOUD
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Old March 28, 2013, 08:27 AM   #31
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I have two glocks both in 9mm. A 17 and 19. However I also have a Ruger SR1911 in the commander size. I have to say that I really enjoy both platforms but I would have to say glock as a defensive weapon only because of the # of rounds in the mags. But boy do I love that ruger. it is quickly becoming my favorite pistol.
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Old March 28, 2013, 11:27 AM   #32
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LOUD

You are not the only one that feels that way.

I have 3 1911s and love them. I have 7 Glocks and love them. But my Glocks are my "business" guns, my 1911s are range guns/toys.
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Old March 28, 2013, 11:55 AM   #33
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just received two 1911's

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You are not the only one that feels that way.

I have 3 1911s and love them. I have 7 Glocks and love them. But my Glocks are my "business" guns, my 1911s are range guns/toys.
Wanna hang out sometime?

That's what I'm all about too man.
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Old March 28, 2013, 12:04 PM   #34
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Loud, I certainly understand and appreciate having a reliable pistol that holds lots of ammo. In several potentially lethal situations, most any gun I had seemed to be too small and not have enough capacity, at least in my mind. In LE I carried several different pistols and revolvers over the years, including Glocks. As soon as allowed though, I started carrying a Government Model Colt. I have never felt undergunned with the 7+1 Colt ( or 6-shot .357 revolver years ago ), but have to admit that during training and qualification, I am reloading my Colt, and/or it's magazines, every chance I get, unlike most of my fellow officers who are carrying G17, G21 or G22 Glocks...
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Old March 28, 2013, 12:27 PM   #35
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Constantine,
I'd hang with you, but the Gulf of Mexico is in the way.

Tomorrow when I'm at the range slinging some lead I'll think of you.
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Old March 28, 2013, 01:42 PM   #36
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I think this comparison is similar to comparing the Garand to the ar 15., one being reliable and powerful and kind of heavy the other smaller lighter and carries more rounds.
Except you can get a Glock in the same caliber as a 1911.
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Old March 28, 2013, 06:25 PM   #37
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Glock is just so much of a better design.

The gun just fits your hand so well, it's so much more accurate than a 1911, and the trigger feel is just awesome.

Glocks are so much more Tactical, too. The 1911 looks like something an old man would shoot. Glocks are also really easy to take apart, I keep making that stupid scratch on my 1911s and can't get that dumb round tab thingy off of the barrel.
I feel kind of silly asking this question, but you're joking, right? Seriously, you just wanted to see if someone would bite, didn't you? Cause, just about everything you said of a Glock is, in reality, true of the 1911. Aww, you're just messing with us. Nobody could really believe that a Glock is a better design, is more accurate, has a better trigger, and looks nicer.

BTW... what's the "dumb round tab thingy off of the barrel" that you mention?
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Old March 28, 2013, 09:54 PM   #38
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I used a Glock 20 (10mm auto) and a Colt Delta Elite (10mm auto) on two different occasions to do a course at Gunsite. I did much better with the 1911. For me, it is mostly the trigger. It gives me the greater control of my shots. In a combat situation, you can not miss fast enough to win!

I do not like the looooooooong trigger pull of the Glock design. It is at least ten times longer than my 1911s.
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Old March 28, 2013, 09:57 PM   #39
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BTW... what's the "dumb round tab thingy off of the barrel" that you mention?
My best guess, Barrel Nut or spring cap....

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or the eye that the allows the barrel to slide back with the slide, I'm sure someone knows the correct term....google is up on another tab but the mouse is too far away so.
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Old March 28, 2013, 10:06 PM   #40
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I love 1911's, they're beautiful and fun to shoot, but I wouldn't bet my life on one. 1911's jam, they do. It's a 100 year-old design. That being said, I can't stand glocks (gasp!) I know they run indefinitely but they feel bad in the hand, recoil more than a gun that size should and are ugly as sin.

So. . . I have an M&P9 full size And THAT is the gun i'll take into battle.
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Old March 29, 2013, 05:58 AM   #41
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Nope. I shoot my Springfield TRP 1911 much better than I shoot my Glock 22.

I'll take accuracy over capacity every time.
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Old March 29, 2013, 05:35 PM   #42
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Glock 21 in my right hand, Colt 1991 M1 in my left, Glock 39 at 5:00, Colt commander at 7:00.


just kidding, sort of

I like my Glocks, I like my 1911's more.

I carry a Ruger P90 everyday, wish it was HiCap.
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Old March 29, 2013, 05:44 PM   #43
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The round tab thingy is... the BARREL BUSHING!

Nothing confounds unbelievers in the Gospel According to John more except maybe the proper way of replacing the slide stop.

Glocks have their place, in the same way an old 870 does. It's the gun you don't care if it gets ruined and rusted, but at the same time expect it to work 100% of the time--that's worth something in my book and my G30 is as faithful of an EDC companion as my 1991 Colt Commander.

20 years from now I doubt the G30 will still be around, tho.
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Old March 29, 2013, 06:21 PM   #44
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Anyone else feel the same way?................LOUD
I own both and nope, my 1911s would be my go to guns.
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Old March 29, 2013, 07:46 PM   #45
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The one thing I have to concede that the Glock has a clear advantage over the 1911 is that if the government confiscates our guns, you could still use the Glock to store leftovers in the refrigerator.
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Old March 29, 2013, 08:37 PM   #46
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I carry a Ruger P90 everyday, wish it was HiCap.
Yea I had this problem too, my Glock didn't hold enough rounds and 1911 wasn't accurate enough, both issues were remedied when I started carrying a MAC 10 . Baby Glocks are great back up guns, because lets face it, if your reaching for a back up gun, your already in deep sh*&, they are much smaller and have more rounds to put on target than the same size 1911 (or at least keep the bad guys pinned down while you figure out an exit strategy). Fullsize Glocks are great service pieces, they are all the same, available in a multitude of calibers, an Officer can carry his service 9mm at work, and carry a personal .45 off duty if his Dept allows and have little difference in shooting mechanics, a Response Team can have .45's with reflex sights, Patrolmen can have 9mm fullsizes, Detectives can carry compact 9mm's or .45's and the Dept armorer can work on all of them the same. Glocks have less external features and less parts to wear (no thumb safety, grip safety, less springs if I'm not mistaken) and are less likely to snag when drawing from a coat pocket, leg holster or other area. Glocks offer "less to do before engaging" and remove the "do you manually cock the hammer on the first shot or learn to shoot DA/SA" "Does the department mandate all officers carry cocked and locked or leave it up the officer" "does the safety come off while drawing from the holster or after its at the ready?" with a glock all these are answered. Also a Department doesn't have to worry about its officers being accused of "jumping the tigger" or hair trigger negligence. As for the rest of us, well we can all certainly take these lessons and apply them to our personal carry but mostly it comes down to preference. Do you like the grip on a 1911 or do you like a fatter grip of a Glock? Consistently long trigger pull shot to shot or short light trigger pull with a manual safety. Capacity or slim design.
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