220 Swift die's

ruger357w · March 14, 2013, 07:23 AM

So I've been reloading for 10 years now but have never used the competition die sets. Are they worth the extra money? I picked up the remington varmint SF. I hope she shoots has good as she looks.

sourdough44 · March 14, 2013, 10:02 AM

For the hunter & casual target shooter, I wouldn't think so. I'd just get what you find available & make the most of the loads you assemble.

**Brian Pfleuger** · March 14, 2013, 11:08 AM

I use Lee Collet neck dies and seaters with Redding body dies for several cartridges. I routinely (and pretty easily) load ammo that shoots 1/2 MOA and as little as 1/4 at 100 in several different factory stock, unmodified guns.

It's hard for me to imagine that "competition" dies would dramatically improve on that performance.

I suspect that ease of adjustment, micrometer marks and what-not, are the best feature of such dies.

I also suspect that they might make more difference in accuracy for a gun that shoots really tiny groups but factory guns essentially "mask" any minute benefits. In other words, a 1/10th MOA improvement would be hard to see in my guns without shooting a whole bunch of rounds. A gun that shoots 1/5 MOA, a 1/10 MOA improvement would be dramatic.

jepp2 · March 15, 2013, 11:03 PM

I use a similar approach as Peetza with the Lee Collet die and the Redding body die. Based on bullet runout, this approach gives the straightest necks.

A previous post you may find helpful: here

March 14, 2013, 07:23 AM	#1
ruger357w Member Join Date: May 13, 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 97	220 Swift die's So I've been reloading for 10 years now but have never used the competition die sets. Are they worth the extra money? I picked up the remington varmint SF. I hope she shoots has good as she looks.

March 14, 2013, 11:08 AM	#3
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,663	I use Lee Collet neck dies and seaters with Redding body dies for several cartridges. I routinely (and pretty easily) load ammo that shoots 1/2 MOA and as little as 1/4 at 100 in several different factory stock, unmodified guns. It's hard for me to imagine that "competition" dies would dramatically improve on that performance. I suspect that ease of adjustment, micrometer marks and what-not, are the best feature of such dies. I also suspect that they might make more difference in accuracy for a gun that shoots really tiny groups but factory guns essentially "mask" any minute benefits. In other words, a 1/10th MOA improvement would be hard to see in my guns without shooting a whole bunch of rounds. A gun that shoots 1/5 MOA, a 1/10 MOA improvement would be dramatic. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. ----- He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

March 14, 2013, 10:02 AM	#2
sourdough44 Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Location: WI Posts: 599	For the hunter & casual target shooter, I wouldn't think so. I'd just get what you find available & make the most of the loads you assemble.

March 15, 2013, 11:03 PM	#4
jepp2 Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2008 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 1,034	I use a similar approach as Peetza with the Lee Collet die and the Redding body die. Based on bullet runout, this approach gives the straightest necks. A previous post you may find helpful: here